Corona Virus Update

Lung tissue heals. Even smokers' lungs see a bit of healing after they stop smoking for good.

 

Continued irrational fear mongering.

 

I am glad you are not working in epidemiology, virology, or public health policy.

 

It is wholly irrational to argue that covid-19 is just like the flu when it objectively is more likely to kill you and it spreads more easily.

 

If you are older than 65 and if you have current health issues. I would like to see what the flu mortality rate is for those segments as well. Let's try to keep it real, if your under 65 and reasonably healthy. It's becoming more of a financial problem than an health problem for most.

 

Here's the mortality rate for the 65+ from the Flu. Compared against Covid-19.



As you can see, it is roughly 8 times more lethal for that age range.

 

?? So, you're saying COVID does NOT cause permanent lung damage?

 

Sounds more like he was saying that it's not possible to permanently damage lungs.

 

Hmm again that source let's anyone report by simply giving them your name and email so sorry not going to trust that one. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's not more deadly for that age group especially the over 80 per todays cdc report on American and comparing to China numbers. Now all that being said as of today's cdc reporting, we have 7,038 confirmed cases and 97 confirmed deaths from corona virus. That's a death rate of 1.3% as of now.

 

Not only is the death rate going up, but the morbidity from illness really does matter, how stealthily it spreads, and loss of work hours, actual employment, and overwhelming of hospitals; it is about more than just fatality rate, although it is not great either, and is in its early stage in the US still.

 

You are confusing that source with worldofmeters.com. It is not. Those numbers come from the Chinese CDC.

And you asked for the mortality rate for the age 65+ and how it compares to the seasonal flu.

The problem with using the current dead in the US against the total infection is that you assume one of only two outcomes: Infection or Death. If you are still sick with the virus, then you can still die from the virus. The average age from onset of symptoms to death is ~20 days.

 

That and you can still spread it to others.

I am 99.99% likely to survive corona virus at 41 years of age, no immune disorders, no current lung issues, non-smoker, and I have access to quality healthcare, but I can still spread it to others, or if I do not do what I need to, I could succumb to it.

 

First case here was in Feb so I agree it's early but I'm not going to use China numbers nor media estimates and I'll stick with CDC Confirmed cases in the US and Confirmed Deaths due to it in the US. The fear mongering is as bad if not worse than the virus and it's not valuable to anyone. Yes it's bad Yes it is deadly for certain segments and yes the problem with this virus is that most have mild symptoms therefore can easily spread it to those in the danger segments. Everyone needs to follow the guidelines and be smart and we have a chance to curve the numbers and with a little luck the warm weather coming will help.

 

I believe the virus is still many times more deadly than the flu to younger people. I can't remember where I saw the number, but IIRC the mortality rate for younger people is still estimated at 0.2%, which would be double the rate for seasonal flu. But, that .1% for flu INCLUDES the elderly which means that the mortality rate for the young is much less than 0.1%.
Someone will will tell me if I'm way off here...

 

https://www.koco.com/article/as-us-...2020-03-18&utm_term=koco_coronavirus_COMBINED

 

Everything you said here is accurate and appropriate.

The CDC numbers tend to lag a bit behind the other sources (notice that they jumped from 4k to 7k in one day, whereas John Hopkins has it at 7700, Worldofmeters at 8300, and NY Times has it at 7000).

Also, It will be God send if the virus gets reduced by the warm weather, but it is still too early to say.

 

You are correct - Post 782

 

There will be a big jump cases in almost every state over the next few days mostly due to testing becoming more readily available and as the tests catch up with the need.

 

It'll be scary to watch, but it is ultimately a good thing.

 

Hey see we can agree on something!

 

Agree, but once those tests are completed, it'll be easier to monitor new cases.

 

I think you're on the wrong thread.

Here where we're discussing COVID, we DO need to have smart, science based governnment action.

Suggesting that our medical experts aren't providing that is freaking crazy - and AntiAmerican.

 

Seconded.

 

Not really because those tested negative can still get it later. You can't just keep testing people.

 

Yes. The gfm post was weird in that it seems to oppose the permanent damage idea, but uses a specific case (smoking) that clearly does permanent damage.