Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

As a learning opportunity only. The outbreaks in Spain and Italy and the way they were handled is much different than here in the US. We are more closely akin to South Korea.

 

All patients "clamoring" for the drug are in need. Who is self medicating ?? These drugs require a prescription. Two patients lives were saved - Jay Forman and Rio Giardinieri. Clinical studies are being conducted on infected patients in New Orleans and the east coast by Dr. Stephan Smith. Israel is sending 6 million doses. Gov Cuomo has ordered tens of thousands of doses. Chloroquine was developed in 1955. Today one million patients are taking it for a variety of reasons. Where is the evidence that there is a shortage of azithromycin ??

So you now blame Trump for someone tragically ingesting a fish tank cleaner with chloroquine phosphate as an active ingredient ??

 

I also don't really get sick, but have seasonal allergies. This year was the exception and I had what I believe was an extremely mild case of the flu for 5 days. I don't remember having the flu before this year since I was a kid. No flue shots either.

 

Doctors are writing the scripts, they're legal prescriptions. Yes I do blame Trump for the death of that woman's husband and her need for hospitalization. She clearly stated that it was ONLY because they heard Trump talk about the substance twice that they took the risk. Yes, I blame that idiot 100%

 

Likewise here. It seems that about once every 3 - 4 years I get something which puts me in bed for ~ 3 days (one year I had to miss the Berkely Hills Road Race (cycling)). Never have had a flu shot after several people died after President Ford recommended that everyone get one. Not his fault of course.

 

Sure they are and have been for decades for off label applications.

Where is the evidence that azithromycin is in short supply ??

 

Here's your evidence;

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03/22/us/22reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-pharmacies.html
States Work to Limit Prescriptions of Potential Coronavirus Drugs

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/...e-us/273-388b4338-5f5c-4117-9c7d-3f488c5fbb40
Coronavirus could cause a shortage of common medications in the US

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/drugshortages
Current and Resolved Drug Shortages and Discontinuations Reported to FDA
Azithromycin Tablets

 

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This site has some very clean charts, with line graphs, daily numbers, and pie charts: https://epidemic-stats.com/

 

From the same site:

 

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Day two of the "lockdown" ordinance here and things aren't going very well. The mayor is blasting the college students and families (who can't go to work) with kids (who are out of school) for going to Barton Springs Pool, a popular outdoor swimming pool, instead of staying home. The ordinance does allow for outdoor activities. The pool will probably be packed Saturday and Sunday, I expect.

You can't fix stupid.

 

Speculation and nothing about azithromycin. One of the links is from February.

 

Thank you for establishing that I am correct when I post that the "lockdowns" in America are haphazard and mostly ineffectual.

 

Yes, However stupidity goes in the other direction as well. Our tennis courts in the gated community I live in are locked even though we meet all the federal guidelines, wear gloves, sanitize hands/gloves on every changeover, use new balls, don't get close to each other, and tap rackets at the end of the matches at arm's length. We are in a rural community with no corona cases.

 

Thanks. I've heard Dr. Birx state that South Korea is at ~ 0.6% mortality but if you do the arithmetic on the raw numbers you get ~ 1.5%. Obviously there is a difference in the denominator that Dr. Birx is using?

 

An Azithromycin is part of the penicillin-family, so people (like myself) who are allergic to penicillin couldn't take this cocktail, anyway.

 

Yes, a tennis match could easily meet the 6ft social distance requirements. In fact, people could sit 6ft apart at the pool until it gets a normal weekend crowd where people are jammed together.

I don't know what's more stupid. The mayor announcing a lockdown...but going out for exercise at crowded parks/pools is encouraged, or people having zero common sense regardless what the government tells them to do or not to do.

I locked myself down to work, groceries and home 2-3 weeks before there was any sort of official local ordinance, just based on CDC recommendations.

 

Correction: "with no documented corona cases"

There are millions upon millions of asymptomatic people out there and the probability that a number of them are in your county is, I would say: 100%

That being said, I can partially understand your frustration. Well, kind of. Ok, not very much. But oh well.

 

Even in China, people weren't locked inside their homes/apartments unless they had the virus. The groceries were open and there were several videos of people spitting and coughing on the elevator buttons in buildings. People were coming and going, just not as many. The streets were pretty "dead" there for the most part, even with some stores open. Perhaps, the citizens there have more common sense for self-protection and a higher value on protecting the whole community.

 

I don't know. Maybe there's been a recent rise?

 

Six feet is a bit much. Here in Europe, when you are in a public-place (like a supermarket) where queuing-up is required for payment, the spaces have taped-lines on the floor at a distance of about one meter (3.3 feet).

The common consensus here in Europe is "Wear a mask". The difficulty is in finding one because nobody predicted Cov-19. Which I find that awesome, considering that China also gave birth to SARS in 2002/4. What made anybody think it could not happen again?

The Chinese really fumbled the ball on this one given that the first indications of Cov-19 occurred in early December! And they shut-up the doctor who first warned that COV-19 who knew full-well that it was a repeat of SARS!

At the very least, at any public outbreak of a epidemic, we should have warned people to have masks ready. Meaning that each household - given history - should have personal masks available. And at the very first sign of infection the population should have started wearing them. Not two/three months later! And with no stocks whatsoever to distribute masks amongst the population as soon as an "epidemic" becomes public in order to arrest it before becoming a "pandemic".

Given the deaths occurring in Europe, the manslaughter that is happening presently is unconscionable. And I predict this pandemic will spark the evolution of an EU Central Government elected by popular-vote ...

PS: The European Union has taken its own sweet time building up an EU-government. That is, there is no Head of state of the European Union. There is only an popularly elected parliament in Strasbourg which itself does not elect an EU Prime Minister. There is a figment of Central Governance in the form the European Commission, which is unelected and therefore has no real effectual power.

 

The mayor of Nembro, Italy (a town within Bergamo), one of the hottest flashpoints of the COVID-19 virus, has contributed to an article in Corriere della Sera in ENGLISH:

https://www.corriere.it/politica/20...rs-b5af0edc-6eeb-11ea-925b-a0c3cdbe1130.shtml

He is claiming that the actual number of deaths at least in Bergamo are 6 to 7 TIMES higher than the actual publicized numbers.

You really need to read the article to fully grasp what he is saying and how he is founding what he is saying.

Wow.

 

Looks like that started with a large number of cases due to their early mass testing, with low deaths. Over time, their number of new cases has decreased significantly, making their mortality rate proportionally higher.

Since Day 1:




A closer look at the last 14 days:

 

I'm sure there are a ton of rural areas here with no cases at all. I don't know why that's so hard to believe.

 

I’ve noticed the discrepancy before. Something to look into.