Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    500,000 Chinese came to the US and returned to China in the period between the Corona outbreak and the travel ban. How do you think the birus got here ??? Additionally 300,000 Chinese were in the north of Italy working in the garment industry. Some of them attended the festival in Wuhan and returned to Italy infected with the virus.

    Meanwhile another American (Jim Santilli) life was saved by the newly approved medications hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.
     
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    Adding Zinc Sulfate to hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin seems to have worked for an Italian doctor. He saved over 600 patients by adding ZInc Sulfate to the other two drugs.
     
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    So if I say something about a train track, and you decide to lay down on one and get run over, it's my fault?
     
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    Indeed: This is the heart of the matter!

    Unlike Europe where the call to remain home became an Ordinance, this did not happen in the USofA until much, much later. I'm into my third week of Government Rule that I must remain under lock-down rules except for some acceptable reasons (seven in all, one of which is to buy food). And those rules were tested and upheld in a court of law!

    Moreover putting people into an enclosed aircraft and flying them to destinations is prohibited as well. Europe is in "lock-down" effectively.

    We shall see - within a month or perhaps more - who suffers the most deaths ultimately*, per-capita, the EU or the US ...

    *Keyword meaning: "finally; in the end; at the most basic level". (Which in this instance means life or death.)
     
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    Dr. Zelenko includes zinc as well. And the WAPO says ‘FDA approves unproven drugs’. They apparently would rather people die than Trump be right.
     
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    ● Shot: “In terms of the happy talk we’ve had on this front from the federal government, there is no sign that the Navy hospital ships that the president made such a big deal of, the Comfort and the Mercy, there’s no sign that they`ll be anywhere on-site helping out anywhere in the country for weeks yet. The president said when he announced that those ships would be put into action against the COVID-19 epidemic. He said one of those ships would be operational in New York harbor by next week. That`s nonsense. It will not be there next week.”

    MSNBC’s Rachel Madcow, March 20th.

    ● Chaser: “The Mercy arrived in L.A. on Friday, March 27, just one week after Madcow said the ship will take weeks to arrive. The USNS Comfort arrived in New York City’s harbor on Monday, March 30.”

    —“Rachel Madcow Calls The Timely Arrival Of Navy Hospital Ships ‘Nonsense,’” the Federalist today.
     
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    I have been looking at new infections rather than deaths, and it looks to me as if the most affected European countries have all peaked or are even declining in terms of new cases per day:
    - Italy, Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands all seem to be on downward trends.
    - Spain and France seem to have gone flat
    - Belgium could be going down or flat. Too early to tell.
    The daily death tolls could still keep growing for a week or two but maybe these countries have turned the corner in terms of new infections.

    I don’t see a return to normal any time soon, though. This has only happened with pretty severe restrictions and I fear that we would see exponential growth in cases again if the restrictions were completely lifted any time soon.
     
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    When you look at the most serious instances of "lockdown" they mean that NO ONE is allowed to leave their place of residence for any reason other than to obtain essential food or medical services/medications. Only authorized persons may travel.

    What is being "suggested" by those measures does not meet the strict scrutiny of a "lockdown" which means that SAH is essentially whatever you can get away with without being caught.
     
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    Good for Turkey finally taking this seriously. Apparently South Africa is implementing a nationwide testing program which means they will probably find thousands more cases too.

    Still nothing significant from India which is the 2nd largest nation in the world. IF we ever see those numbers the results will be staggering IMO.
     
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    Guten Morgen, PFers,

    Yesterday I ended day in Germany having recorded 780,997 COVID-19 cases and, sadly, 37,561 total deaths.

    Here is where we stand this morning, Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at circa 09:00 AM GMT +1 (Germany), 03:00 AM on the East Coast of the USA:

    2020-03-031 COVID-19 BOD 001.png

    Those are not mistakes. They really are exactly the same percentages (death rate, recovered) as last night. We added +5,611 cases while I slept, but the proportions within the total figures remained the same:

    2020-03-031 COVID-19 BOD 002.png

    You can see that we are less than 14,000 cases away from the 800,000 mark. Very likely, we will go well over 824,110 cases. Why 824,110? Because that is exactly 10 times the number of cases when I began tracking these things on 02/27/2020, just a little over one month ago. Assuming 60,000 cases a day minimum, then we go over 800,000 today and then we go over 900,000 tomorrow and will hit 1,000,000 on Friday. That's with "just" +60,000 new cases and no new growth in cases at all.

    There are now 44 nations in the "thousand club". Yesterday, at the end of the day in England and through the night here, both Mexico and Panama crossed over the line. Turkey has suddenly jumped to 10,000 cases; just a few short days ago, it was under 5,000. So the exponential curve has hit Turkey.

    2020-03-031 COVID-19 BOD 003.png 2020-03-031 COVID-19 BOD 004.png

    As you can see, Argentina, Peru, the Dominican Republic and Sinagore are next up.

    Also, South Korea and Austria are going to cross over the 10,000 line today, tomorrow at the very latest.

    the USA hit about +20,000 new cases yesterday, so at this rate, it will cross over the 200,000 mark tomorrow.

    Keep an eye on Switzerland, the Netherlands and Belgium today. The growth rate of confirmed cases plus the extreme high death rate in the two Belelux countries is becoming quite a phenomenon.

    Both Germany and France had circa +4,500 new cases yesterday, but the number of dead between those two nations is just enormous. At this rate, Germany will overtake China in the number of cases in 3 days time, France will do it in 8 days.

    China is still reporting cases and deaths, but the numbers are so low, we hardly see them go by. Currently, China is reporting +79 new cases and +5 deaths to their total.

    Let's see what today brings.

    May Ad-shem be with us all,

    Stat
     
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    Well, it seems to be working out well for me!
     
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    The 1st Amendment does NOT give anyone the right to knowingly endanger the lives of others which is exactly what the pastor did.

    Furthermore there was nothing preventing him from preaching his sermon virtually to his faithful.

    Given that he had alternatives what he did was a Reckless Disregard for Human Lives and he does deserve to be charged as a result.

    Worth pointing out that the SK outbreak centered on a single individual attending a Mega Church and that the Pope has chosen to give virtual sermons/blessings.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...en-sermon-as-vatican-museums-close-over-virus

    Any gathering of any sort represents a threat of spreading the virus. The Right of the People to Assemble does NOT grant anyone the right to spread a potentially lethal virus.
     
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    Indeed. As I wrote, and again, that posting was in no way meant to inflame anyone - it is what it is - I wrote that I think we have a situation where public safety collides with the 1A. But then again, did not Jeshua say "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto G-d what is G-d's"? And did not Yeshua also say "I have come not to take away even one whit of the Law, but rather, to add to it"?

    So, logically, by extension, one could very effectively argue that churches that deliberately flout the public safety ordinances are themselves going directly against the words of Yeshua. And by further extension, if the New Testament is taken at it's word, then other Christians can and will be rebuking those churches. Just saying.
     
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    I wish you were wrong about that but I have to agree absolutely with your statement above because I find myself at a loss for words too.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Dyson now lives in Hong Kong (taxes too high in GB)!

    He walks into China to visit his factories. I'd like to know if he is making a commission on those ventilators ... !
     
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    Note to self: never read a gnoib posting and drink coffee at the same time. ROFL
     
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    Kind of like the movie "12 monkeys", but in slow-motion and nowawadays, everyone gets to watch it happen over wifi whilst picking up a package just delivered by an amazon drone.
     
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    Great posting, as usual.

    I too am surprised very positively about Los Angeles. Our nation's 2nd largest city, tucked in the largest county in the nation by far, and with a very high population density. I mean, it's not as if that many less people fly through LAX than they fly through JFK or La Guardia. Maybe Californians really paid attention far more quickly, but I'm not so sure about that.

    Other big cities are sure to pop up soon enough: Tampa, Miami, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Cincy, Indy, West Bend, Pittsburgh, Raleigh, Ft. Worth..... I really can see Ohio and Michigan getting absolutely hammered worse than the rest of the nation, based on the theory I floated close to the beginning of the OP, namely, that COVID-19 seems to flourish in heavily industrial zones.
     
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    This kind of posting is extremely inappropriate, to put it mildly. To wish death upon anyone is something that is totally alien to me, and I would bet, to most anybody.
     
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    Any nation that goes into full lockdown ends up with those kinds of unemployment numbers.

    Currently the US is far from in full lockdown mode so that UI figure can increase.

    What matters is for HOW LONG they remain unemployed and what is done to SUPPLEMENT their loss of income.

    The single biggest factor that matters most is FOOD. If people cannot obtain food then you will see the revolutions arise. Remember that it was a lack of food that caused the French Revolution.

    Each country MUST have a NATIONWIDE plan to ensure that food supplies continue to reach their people and that they have the funds to purchase it.

    This is a key factor that is NOT being discussed but it is crucial to the final outcome.

    TBH I have not heard a single peep from anyone in office in America address this vital issue. I might be wrong but without food EVERYTHING collapses into chaos.
     
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    Saves me a lot of time not having to read a lot of the "noise" that I have no interest in at all.
     
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    That's presuming of course that anyone has the said potential lethal virus.(Also worth noting the church did say they abided by the 6 foot separate rule and had hand sanitzer.) This is actually a real serious issue where "doctor's orders" in a non-hospital setting cannot be made into fiat law, that's absolutely ridiculous.

    This is going to go all the way to SCOTUS(and cases like it.) The newfound "powers" borne out of this crisis, is a step out of bounds in America and the Courts will likely rectify said abuses.
     
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    Worth noting that NJ is essentially just an extension of NYC. NJ shares a common northern and eastern land border with NY. Millions of people who live in NJ make daily commutes into NYC.
     
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    KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES

    I don't shudder. I just shrug my shoulders.

    Everybody was ecstatic in the US when the Soviet Union folded and Eastern European countries came knocking on the door of the European Union. "Hey, we defeated Communism!"

    BFD. It was born-dead and took a almost a century to put itself into a grave.

    America remains one of the most unfair-economically of any advanced nation on earth. And that is entirely due to its system of taxation. Far too few have far too much - and they don't know what to do with it all. So, they leave it family, who leave it to family, who leave it to family.

    Americans think that the US is the Hero of Capitalism. Without even considering what IS capitalism. It's a means of exchange that replaced barter. And that's all!

    Capitalism is NOT God's gift to humanity. It is an economic mechanism. Its definition is dead simple. What is key, however, is answering the question, "But, is it fair?" And that's not a question America's rich like to answer.

    So some would say, "Hey, what's wrong with that, being rich!?!" Consider this (from here: Poverty in the United States - Debt.org):
    THAT is what is wrong, wrong, wrong. There is the condition of being poor, and then there is "abjectly poor".

    Now YOU-PLURAL answer the question: "Why should any people put up with an economic-system that is inherently unfair? When, in fact, it would be soooooo easy to fix it. We bring the Minimum Wage up to $15 an hour, and watch miracles happen!

    ABRA-CADABRA! And, as a result, workers at the lower end (the median American wage being around $31K a year) will be able to lead decent lifestyles.

    What's wrong with America? It has the highest penitentiary population per capita of any county on earth. Meaning what? Ask yourself, why do people turn to crime?

    Because they too are trying to keep up with the Joneses! And it aint happening at the bottom level. Not at all ... !
     
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