Corona Virus Update

I don't care what it's about. It's fascism. And there is zero defense of it. It's un-american. It's disgusting. It's totally irrational and unsustainable.

Or how about we all just live inside plastic bubbles? After all, if it saves one life, then it's worth it.

How am I putting them at risk? By simply existing? By behaving like a human being? Oh well. I guess they will just have to tolerate the "risk" that comes with living in a human society. It's far better than living in a dystopia with no civil liberties, snitches everywhere, millions unemployed, totalitarian government, etc.

Who has a 15% chance of dying from COVID? Some bed-ridden octogenarian in a nursing home? How is destroying our society going to protect them from a virus? Nobody has explained that to me yet. It's just supposed to magically work somehow.

How about you stop taking my taxes and demanding my obedience first?

"There's a lot we don't know"

But we do know that it kills less than 0.5% of people it infects. We know that Sweden's hospital system didn't collapse. We know that Sweden hasn't experienced some appalling amount of deaths. We know that the doomsday models peddled early on by alarmists and frauds like Neil Ferguson were totally overblown.

The "lockdown" movement has turned into a religion. It was never based on "evidence" or "science", just hysteria, emoting, and fear.

 

It is temporary and a case of patriots acting in the best interest of the country. I guess that is too much to ask of you? Are you American or British?

It is easy to wear a mask. It isn't easy to live in a bubble. Your response demonstrates that you aren't even trying to be rational about this. You are just whining.

There are times when you have to step up and be a man. But that appears to be too much to ask of righties these days. And after all, asking someone to wear a mask is just like asking them to get blown to bits defending the country. So it is reasonable to expect there to be conscientious objectors. I mean the horror of it., wearing a MASK!!!! How can any man tolerate such a sacrifice?

SCREW EVERYONE BUT YOU!!! MAGA!!!!

 

Why do you care about this in the middle of a pandemic? Trump should get about getting these...

 

How can it be temporary when there will always be viruses to scare you into surrendering our rights at the drop of a hat? COVID isn't going away. It will keep proliferating, mutating, and adapting. There will always be a second or third or fourth "wave" for you to fret over. According to the standards you and other alarmists have established, nothing will ever be "safe" enough for you.

There is nothing "patriotic" about ruining American society. In fact, it's the exact opposite of patriotism.

So we should only save lives if it's easy to do?

I'm just pointing out the serious flaws in your argument, of which there are many.

As for whining, there is nobody who can compete with the pro-lockdown crowd. They've been whining so hard and so often that they managed to plunge the economy into a depression with their whining.

Cowering inside your home, meekly submitting to authority, giving up your most basic freedoms... sounds super manly.

You're the "rightie", not me. You're the one bowing to authority and groupthink. You're the one trying to boss everyone around and control how they live down to the smallest detail. You're a straight-up fascist.

 

Yeah, because nothing says dystopia like everyone walking around in respirators...

 

Nothing says dystopia like rotting bodies lining the streets.

 

This is the first time in a century we have seen something like this. And we will probably have a vaccine by the end of the year.

 

There's No Credible Evidence That The Lockdowns Are Working

ONLY INDISPUTABLE FACTS!

Author; nopartisanbull


I dedicate this book to the below-average intelligent people

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Chapter 1.....NO MEASURES

Question; Were several of the following workplaces heavily affected by Covid19?

Navy ships
Meat plants
Cruise ships

If your answer is YES, then what are the odds you'd catch Covid-19 at;



Drinking establishments
Casinos
Schools/colleges
Restaurants
Sporting events
Conferences
Weddings
Movie theaters
Concerts
Churches
Public transits
Mardi Gras

 

You examples (Navy ships, Meat plants, Cruise ships) are proof that lock downs spread the virus. Think it through next time.
Navy ships
Meat plants
Cruise ships
Navy ships
Meat plants
Cruise ships

 

Congratulation!

You may pick up your free book at Barnes & Noble

 

That would be in the Fiction section.

 

Oh, I think it is sustainable and we may go back to lockdown mode and then it may not be voluntary.

Oh, well--if you won't behave, then you can't go out on the street.

You're putting them at risk by potentially spreading the virus when you could take simple precautions.

Seniors with health issues like diabetes. You're not even close to convincing them when SARS-CoV-2 is making the rounds.

Sorry, but you have to pay your taxes and obey the law.

British Columbia never locked people down, but they have shut down some types of businesses that aren't safe in a pandemic.

I think with testing, tracing, and good PPE for employees in contact with the public...



... and HEPA filters, we can hold down transmission rates. People will come out of their shells and we can move forward

 

Patriots do not lie to the public about public health matters. Patriots do not profit from induced hysteria. Patriots do not stand in a circle and urinate on the US Constitution.

 

There is widespread agreement that one of easiest ways to control the spread of the coronavirus is to wear a face mask, but there are all kinds of reasons why people don't take this basic step, experts said Tuesday.
"That's a simple question with a complex answer," said Jacqueline Gollan, a psychologist and associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. "One, they underestimate the threat. It’s not concrete, it’s abstract. And prevention is a difficult thing to measure."
After nearly two months of quarantine, Gollan said, many people are suffering from "mental fatigue."
"People are constantly calculating the gain/loss of doing everyday things like going to the grocery store and not wearing a mask," she said. "Some will go for the shortcut."
The refusal to wear a mask, which has been mandated in numerous cities and states, allegedly figured in the death of security guard Calvin Munerlyn, 43, who was fatally shot after he barred a customer from a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, because she wasn't wearing a mask.
Munerlyn's death placed a spotlight on the people whose job it has become to enforce regulations that rub a lot of people wrong.
"In general, people do not like to be told what to do,” said Elizabeth Dorrance Hall, a professor of communication at Michigan State University.
“Their reactions to being told what to do, however, vary,” Dorrance Hall said in an email. “For example, if a person was told not to eat cake at a birthday party, they may seek to restore their freedom directly by doing the forbidden act.”
Or, Dorrance Hall said, they might express anger at the person denying them cake or “exercise a different freedom to regain the feeling of control and choice” by eating something else like potato chips, Hall said.

Get the idea?

 

You have to wonder what will happen when businesses in America re-open. Will it be a good or bad idea? If we an increase in the deaths in coronavirus pandemic, is there a chance where we'll have to stay home longer?

 

It will be a good idea. The healthcare system will not be overwhelmed. Daily cases will probably increase for a time. And tragically people will continue to die. But young healthy workers and parents will be able to support their families. And that is a very good thing.

 

Right, and trump has lied many times.

 

Patriots do whatever they have to do to protect their nation. Not whatever is fun and easy.

 

I guess you're about to find out.

In answer to your second question ... yes, absolutely. If numbers skyrocket (they will), and your leader grows a pair (debatable), then you'll see a much longer interruption to business as usual.

 

It seems America has far more of the cake eaters than the latter.

Meantime, I'm going to assume that pic is recent .. which begs the question - who in their right mind would go to a place like that, in a pandemic? That's unbelievably shitty behaviour. Wilful sabotage.

 

Latest news

Pompeo admits US can't be certain coronavirus outbreak originated in Wuhan lab

We have mountains of evidence, however, Pompeo admits U.S. can't be certain.





Boy, when will Trump's supporters grow some balls, and stop being sheeples?

Just another hype

Also, does anyone seriously believe Trump will end up punishing China?

I don't.

 

Here are the real clear politics corona global and U.S. charts to date. For those in the U.S., pick your state from the chart and make your own conclusions.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/country/united-states/

My conclusions/opinions as a U.S./State resident are as follows. None of the following comprise or should be taken to comprise legal advice:

1. Anyone continuing to try to aggregate all U.S. data nationwide at this point, given up to date information, models, etc., is either a) a moron, or b) a purposeful liar seeking partisan political advantage. That results are DRASTICALLY different across different states is so well-known now that only partisan fear-merchants will persist in inaccurate, fallacious aggregation attempts.

2. Results in ~25 states are so low that -any- draconian mitigation measures such as lockdown, shelter in place, social distancing, masks, etc. are Constitutionally illicit as a matter of law with no debate possible, and should be met with immediate lawsuits or other action.

3. Results in ~15 states are low enough such that any draconian mitigation measures such as the above are Constitutionally suspect with a very high chance of success in court.

4. No results in ANY state supports ANY statewide, one size fits all government action, and any draconian mitigation measures applied to whole states and not segregated as to county or city are legally indefensible under the Constitution.

5. To date, as noted several times over the last several days, ~50k of U.S. deaths are "counted" in the top ten Democrat, near bankrupt (finagling bailouts and federal funds) Soprano cities, while only ~25k or so are counted in the whole rest of the other ~40 states. This "counting" is prime facie evidence of FRAUD, one way or the other. Make up your own mind as to whether it's the corrupt, rotten gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex doing it in the 10 "Corleone" states or the rest of the country.

Do -not- be fooled by these corrupt few Blue states, known to lie at every juncture during the Trump Administration and before, into allowing BAD ACTORS including their corrupt MSM and their armies of internet SHILLS to aggregate results in efforts to affect the rest of the country unjustly. Want to keep the big blue states locked down until the end of time? FINE, just leave the rest of us the F ALONE!

 

If they get sick, who can they blame?

 

If People Are Staying Home, Why Is Coronavirus Still Spreading?
How one of world’s largest casinos plans to reopen
Shelves won't be fully stocked with Clorox wipes until summer
Two months in to near-nationwide stay-at-home orders, Americans are ready to get back to their pre-pandemic lives. Those who are non-essential workers (and followed the rules) have been at home all day, every day, save for trips to the grocery store or for socially distant walks. And yet, the number of new cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. continues to go up each day, by about 2 to 4 percent.
While the number of new cases is decreasing in hard-hit areas like New York, Michigan and New Jersey, or small states like Hawaii, which is down to around just 1 new case a day, the numbers are spiking upwards in nearly half of the country, from Illinois to Texas to New Hampshire to Alabama.
There isn’t one single reason for the increases, but several, based on the way the U.S. shut down (or didn’t), the current push to reopen and the nature of the virus itself.