Corona Virus Update

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    It is easier to stop a runaway virus than a runaway dictator.

    The defense of the Constitution and the very soul of the country is at stake. This isn't just about police abuse. This is about abuse of power from the streets to the White House. This is America waking up!
     
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    What American needs is unity, not more division.
     
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    Maybe that ought to give us something to think about
     
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    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    Yes we do need it.
     
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    On that, there's nothing easier .. in a democracy. VOTE. It's the ultimate weapon against that which you can't tolerate.

    If only COVID was so easily vanquished.
     
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    There is no value in unifying under an oppressive tyrant.

    You don't even live here. How dare you presume to tell me what my country needs. Your arguments show you don't have the slightest clue what is at stake.

    I would gladly die for what these young people are fighting for. These are two of the few things worth dying for - liberty and justice.
     
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    You may well get your wish, since they seem determined to spread the virus.

    Meantime, no need to get all huffy. The world is watching America implode under the weight of its internal division. That division has played out in the pandemic (with half wanting mitigation, and the other half working to thwart mitigation), and now these riots. IOW, it's not like no one thinks what I said .. it's a bit late to be pretending its otherwise.
     
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    Ron Paul Liberty Report

    "the virus is really not there; it's essentially not a virus anymore... more and more doctors are coming out against the COVID-19 scam; Trump needs to convene a public hearing and let the other side be heard; put it on national television to expose the corruption in journalism...

    "Doctors in Italy are saying this virus just doesn't exist anymore; Dr. Alberto Sangrillo, head of intensive care at San Rafael hospital in Milan, the epicenter of Italy's coronavirus outbreak, said, "The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out on patients a month ago."

    "The British team looking for a vaccine are saying the virus has died too quick, were 'not going to be able to get a vaccine together.' "

     
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    COVID-19: a movie on the screen of life


    Recently, a report on the COVID-19 crisis was leaked from the German Interior Ministry.

    The report states quite definitely that the whole threat has been overblown. It was a “false alarm.”

    World media have taken very little notice.

    As Strategic Culture Foundation reveals, the report, “Analysis of the Crisis Management” (an English translation, here), was authored by “a scientific panel appointed by the interior ministry and composed by external medical experts from several German universities.”

    “The report was the initiative of a department of the interior ministry called Unit KM4 and in charge [of] the ‘Protection of critical infrastructures’.”

    “Some of the [leaked] report key passages are:

    * The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.
    * The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).
    * Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.
    * The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.
    * A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.”

    Of course, here in America, we’re grateful that the New York Times, the Washington Post, and all the major television networks have been trumpeting news of the explosive findings in the leaked German report. Our major media have been on top of this story from the beginning, with page-one headlines and lead items every night on TV news broadcasts. We’re grateful to Tony Fauci, Deb Birx, and the whole coronavirus task force crew for highlighting what’s been happening in Germany in their daily press conferences. We appreciate the hour-to-hour updates on Germany from the CDC and the WHO. Bill Gates’ breathless reports on YouTube, demolishing the official COIVD narrative and praising the German leaker, have warmed our hearts.


    WAIT. Sorry. For a minute there, I thought I was writing PR releases for…some honest US government agency and media consortium that don’t actually exist. My mistake. Wrong country, wrong world, wrong universe.
     
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    Glad you finally figured it out.
     
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    Six hundred physicians recently signed a letter to President Trump calling for an end to the coronavirus lockdowns. The physicians wrote that, far from protecting public health, the lockdowns are causing “exponentially growing negative health consequences” for millions of Americans.

    [...]

    The coronavirus lockdowns have upended the lives of Americans to “protect” them from a virus with a 0.2 percent fatality rate, with the majority of those fatalities occurring in nursing homes and among people with chronic health conditions. Instead, the rational response would be to protect the vulnerable, and let the rest of the people live their lives. But politicians and government-anointed “experts” do not respond rationally to a “crisis,” especially when a panicked reaction can increase their power and prestige.

    The lesson of the unnecessary lockdowns is clear: Government bureaucrats and politicians, even the media’s beloved Dr. Fauci, must be stripped of the ability to infringe on our liberty and prosperity.

    http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/listen-to-the-doctors-end-the-lockdowns
     
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    So they got lucky.

    What did they do differently?
     
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    Many assumed it was like the flu. But covid apparently is not seasonal .But early on it was an educated guess. One that even a real estate guy would be safe in making.

    I dont blame trump for my bros death. I blame the person who carrie gave it to my brother instead of keeping his arse at home.

    Irresponsible bastard. This is where the buck stops.
     
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    Southern blacks are very sociable and tend to like crowds .

    The county north of me is mostly black and there numbers are double that of ours.



    An area that had no cases had someone bring the virus to them Not rocket science just basic virology.
     
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    They tested early, often, then traced. They shut down schools earlier than some jurisdictions.
     
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    Sure .. many groups are highly social and like crowds. But NOT in a pandemic!

    We behave like grownups and do the right thing, to protect ourselves and to protect those around us.
     
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    My state has spiked in new infections most in 18 to 29 age group.

    I am from mississippi.

    Counties with low black demos have few cases and few deaths.
     
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    Here it is; the expected spike after reopening.

    (Reuters) - Arizona again told hospitals to activate the coronavirus emergency plans after cases spiked following reopening, turning it into a U.S. virus hotspot along with neighboring Southwest states.

    The state's stay-at-home order ended on May 15, and its cases have increased 115 percent since then, leading a former state health chief to warn Arizona may need new social distancing measures or field hospitals.

    State health director Cara Christ on Saturday told hospitals to "fully activate" emergency plans - a message she last sent on March 25 - after Arizona's largest medical network Banner Health warned it was reaching its capacity in intensive care unit beds.

    "Since May 15, ventilated COVID-19 patients have quadrupled," Banner Health tweeted on Monday, adding it had hit capacity for some patients needing cardiac and respiratory care.

    The alert came after Arizona, New Mexico and Utah each posted rises of 40% or higher in new cases for the week ended June 7 compared with the prior seven days, joining hotpots in the South like Florida and Arkansas, according to a Reuters analysis.

    https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/arizona-calls-emergency-plan-covid-010249888.html
     
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    As areas spike, some are nearing the limit of their ICU capacity.

    This is the biggest concern that led to the shutdown in the first place. If the health care system is overwhelmed things will get much worse than merely 200,000 dead.

    What we are seeing now are spikes due to reopening. We can only hope that social distancing practices will keep spread due to the protests, to a minimum. I saw many crowds where nearly everyone had a mask and separation. Others had masks but were far too close. A few seemed to have people mostly not wearing masks.

    The good news is that mask may be 6x more effective at preventing spread than we thought. But that is only anecdotal at this time.
     
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    True.
     
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    Here is a great way to explain the need to slow the spread.

    If this gets out of control again and you need help, if you have a heart attack, take a bad fall, or get into an accident, emergency services may not be able to respond before you're dead. They could be locked up trying to manage critical covid 19 patients.
     
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    The fundamental challenge is to be smarter than a coronavirus, isn't it?

    Somehow they seem more ready to recognize that when we don't have antibiotics, vaccines and remedies we have to depend on the public health principles that were once our only tools against contagions.
     
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    Amen.

    When we hear of the places today where hospitals have 80% occupancy that's more than just an indication of what COVID patients face. It's what all those in need of healthcare face.
     
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    COVID ICU patients aren't like most ICU patients. These are aften longer term, a week or much longer. And being so infectious, there is no way to add extra beds or space, like I have seen done with other ICU overloads.

    So heart attacks, critical injuries, even manageable problems like infections become deaths.

    With the blink of an eye, a patient's health care is now back in the 1800s care level.
     
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    Since we know that behaviour is what spreads this virus, what is it that the demographic in question is doing ... behaviour wise? Or rather, what are they NOT doing?
     
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