Man dies after being shot by Atlanta police at Wendy’s drive-thru

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Sure... the entire episode of a white thug putting his knee on the neck of handcuffed black man for almost 9 minutes in brought daylight, while his fellow thug buddies made sure nobody was able to stop him..... is what the Dems do in an election year.

    Sound more like the right wing need to blame the execution of this man on the left.
    Disgusting.
     
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    Agreed, I want drunk drivers off the road and anyone who strikes a cop 5 years. That guy should have done 5-10 years in jail. not dead from two bullets in the back. I don't want criminal coddled at all.

    I want drugs legalized and subisidized for adult addicts. If they want to lose their souls to drugs, screw them. Right now 1/2 of all police manpower is drug and drug related crime.
    Free up the cops and prisons space to lock up the true sociopaths up for 2x as long.
     
  3. MissingMayor

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    :roflol::oldman:

    Education? Righties want abstinence training and fight birth control!
    Social pressure? Going back to scarlet letters? Yeah, that'll totally fix things.
    Expectations? Sorta like wishing on a falling star.

    Wow, you completely underwhelmed me with your nonspecific list of platitudes.
     
  4. MissingMayor

    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    Isn't a single mother raising her own kids???
     
  5. MissingMayor

    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    Yes, "one of the" main causes of single motherhood is the lack of father involvement.

    One could almost say there is a direct correlation.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    HE controlled that situation. Had he not grabbed the officers weapon, attempted to flea and the used the weapon against the office then he would not be dead.

    Well they aren't and if this guy had been under the influence of those drugs would you have wanted him out driving and if so and cannot pass a sobriety test arrested?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    You left out women who want to be mothers, who want a baby, but don't have or want a father for the baby they want to create.

    So how do we fix it?
     
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    Certainly not unique. But when it comes to valuing the family, it leans heavily one way.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Yes how do we? How about we start by not admiring it and calling such mother "brave" and using other such glowing terms. Shaming comes to mind. Educating on personal responsibility. Holding the fathers accountable. Lowering the welfare money we send requiring the mothers AND the fathers to support their children. Requiring the mother to disclose at birth who is the father and if she refuses to apply legal sanctions and again lessening the welfare going to the mother requiring her make it up and if she refuses place the child into protective custody due to an unfit mother.

    It's by being a concerned citizen and concerned about the generations of children being raised in such circumstances. I guess you don't care about them?
     
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  10. Bluesguy

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    And you suggestions on how to fix it are................
     
  11. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please point to where I stated 1/3rd of the population is black.
     
  12. notme

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    your source:
    Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."


    We do not have any view. He was shot in the back. He posed no significant threat of death or seriously bodily harm with a freaking taser on him. Hence according to your own source.... the cops broke the freaking law.

    Your idea that he was going to steal a gun or anything.... TOTAL FICTION.
    Nobody claims that. You're just making up total nonsense in defense of a white thug with a badge unlawfully killing a black man.
     
  13. MissingMayor

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    I am not the one claiming that there is a quick and easy way to fix or fight single motherhood. The solutions of shaming single mothers is silly and stupid.

    If you want to reduce the rate of single mothers then early and easy access to birth control and abortion are key.
     
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    This guy created a situation that resulted in his death. The officers shouldn't have shot him, he shouldn't have fought the police period and the officers should be punished. It's going to be awful hard to convict this officer with the guy fighting, going for their weapon (it could've been a gun) then running and shooting a taser at them.
     
  15. MissingMayor

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    It clearly looks like he is reaching back to fire a taser at the officer.

    I think it comes down to whether a regular citizen who is armed with a gun would have reasonable fear to shoot someone who was shooting a taser at them. While the taser is less than lethal would a person have the right to resist an assault like that with deadly force?
     
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    What's a long term fix I didn't ask for a time frame but you are asking others so what are your thoughts? We used to shame the mothers and fathers when I was growing up and we didn't have near the single motherhood. And it's also let's not CELEBRATE it, it's a tragedy for the child. BC is WIDELY available and cheap, let's not have a baby first and then have to kill it as the solution. Abortions have not decreased single motherhood it has exploded WITH abortion.
     
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    A police officer is not a "regular citizen", he is the officer of the law charged with the duty to apprehend the criminal or eliminate the threat. The TASER is a disabling weapon. It the criminal was swing a bat and officers head in order to knock him out and disable him and then be able to grab his deadly force would be appropriate there too.

    And let's not forget we don't get to Monday morning quarterback this, we have to judge it on what that officer perceived at that moment, what a reasonable officer in the position and that moment in time would perceive.
     
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    Correct, claiming Facebook, Twitter and Instagram postings as facts doesn’t make them facts, but I tend to stick to the DOJ, FBI, Harvard, Stanford, Manhattan Institute, Bureau of Vital Statistics, CDC and other very well known and respected venues for my findings. I nearly always include the source of my findings in my posts.

    Amen to that. Perfect examples are the media and social media depiction of the Ferguson High kids, the Jussie Smollett hoax and the Micheal Brown debacle. The left’s insanity rendered them complete idiots when the full truths with video appeared. Nick Sandman is a multimillionaire now thanks to CNN, Jussie Smollett is facing some very serious felony charges and the residents of Ferguson destroyed their city over a false narrative. God Bless America!!!
     
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    Shooting someone for being stupid should never be 'on the table'.
     
  20. MissingMayor

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    Comparing him to a normal citizen establishes a higher bar to clear for the officer to be found not guilty. If it is legal for a citizen to use deadly force then it is legal for the officer. That is the point of my question.

    Of course not. There is no training (that I know of) for responding to a taser being shot at you and the allowable use of force. That is why I think it is not criminal but I am OK with the cop getting fired.
     
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    Personal responsibility perhaps? It’s quite easy NOT getting pregnant you know. How do other races manage it?
     
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    Cool
     
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    Access to birth control and abortion.
     
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    Who told you that? Oh that's right the 2 black friends you have.
     
  25. notme

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    He was shot in his back... twice... so that can not be true.

    A taser is not a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. It's considered non lethal weapon .. hence the cops are not allowed to just execute him.
     

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