White Fragility.

If you were using their argument against them then you would actually be arguing. You're not even doing that. You're just pointing and saying "SEEE!!! PROOF OF WHITE FRAGILITY!!! SEE!!!".

 

Sad.

 

Much like the Tooth Fairy.....prove it does exist.

 

I agree. It makes the divide even greater when we lash out in anger (due to many reasons).

Many moons ago, there was a show called "The John Bradshaw Show" which highlighted the everyday heroes and heroines in society. It was all about positive messages, healing, happy stories, etc. It didn't last very long.

One day, I was talking to a family member (a psychologist) and asked about why a show like that could be canceled so quickly when the likes of "Jerry Springer" and "Maury" were on air forever. She told me it basically boils down to how someone is made to feel about themselves. When we watch "Jerry Springer" or "Maury", we feel better about ourselves because we are doing "better" than many of the show's guests. When we hear about everyday heroes, we feel like we aren't doing enough. It doesn't matter what the message is more than how it makes us feel.

And, as designed, the protests and riots are to make us feel a certain way about a specific group of people and very few are truly interested in understanding why it has reached this level of outrage and it will most certainly deepen the divide. It really hurts my heart that people are so hateful toward one another (for a myriad of reasons). We, as a nation (USA), came together after 9/11 when we were ALL just "American." There is no reason we couldn't all come together NOW except nobody will just talk about the issues that brought us to this place.

 

Let's see- according to your point of view, that would be like assuming all cops are responsible for the actions of one cop. I certainly don't think that's true, so we can agree on that, and recognize that the gangsters attacking all cops are indeed thugs.

Or does that particular virtue of equal justice not apply to cops?

 

I dont go to church and I dont grovel in imaginary white guilt.

 

Yeah, because I know what the concept is and how to spot it. Just look for the characteristic defensive reactions. It’s not hard to do.

I’m sure you don’t go to church.

 

The problems in our society are not so much between blacks and whites as they are between elites and the plebian masses. The War on Poverty and the Great society were complete failures. They gutted nuclear families for both blacks and whites. Even after being warned by one of their own, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, that intact families were the bedrock of successful societies, they forged ahead with a welfare state that created a remodeled family with government as the authority figure.

"White fragility" is a diversion to cover for bad leadership.

 

Fun fact of the day: just because I quote you doesn’t mean I’m taking to you. Especially if anyone who is casually reading this thread sees what you and I post.

My audience isn’t you, it’s a different reader. How do you think I got Kal’stang to respond to me?

 

You are conflating narratives here. The answer to one is not "I can't be racist because I never owned a slave".. That is the answer to do you support cash payouts or reparations. Frankly it is a flagrant abuse of the conversations if you're going to be disingenuous about them. All lives do matter, I fear, except for the massive genocide in the AA community aka war on drugs, war on crime, or abortion rights. Having a 12 yearold shot is the result of empiric evidence that police know of where 12 yo kids shoot real guns at them. That isn't racist, it's history.

You last example seems the most fragile. Jim Crow was a democrat. Woodrow Wilson was a democrat. They instituted segregation as a means to protect their privilege from the potential competition from AAs with rights and opportunities in this country. When you say "most blacks are doing the best they can". can you be any more pejorative here? Are they? And if they are, and if we know there are no other encumbrances the work against them, then WTF is the problem? you talk about slavery, and yet, today, it doesn't exist, nor has it for over 150 years. Not one persona alive in the AA community has suffered slavery. That cannot be said for the millions of folks who are immigrating into this country that are enslaved and sold to folks in this country who use them as servants. When the nice democratic congressional candidate from FL said, "if we stop illegal immigration who will clean the hotels.. mow the lawns" does it not occur to you that we do have a kind of slavery in this country still, NONE OF IT is being adressed by your narrative here?

I'm not uncomfortable about discussing racism in this country. I think there are a whole lot of elitist democrats who actively both engage in it, and profit from it. That isn't an uncomfortable position fo me, but I'll bet it is for lots of folks in the NDP who profit from it. Which is why it certainly seems like the NDP are doing everything they can to change the subject from them, to how everyone else is racist too... The is the conversation we need to be having. Oh, and the next time the little European American child is shot by the police and you don't get hysterical, it just demonstrates the hypocrisy of folks, like you.

 

If black fathers are so important it's a shame so many are killed by other blacks.

 

Elmer Gantry, is that youuuuuuuu?

 

Yeah third person as I said. Lack of anything substantive noted again.

 

Don't forget South Africa stealing white farms. Under-development in Jo'berg or Capetown? Hardly. There's also a Nollywood film colony in Nigeria marketing successful films. Poverty, disease, hunger, suffering and illiteracy are coldly fair summations. These persist despite entirely black legislatures. Since they ended apartheid the improvements have not been very noticeable.

 

So, are you saying that having White friends is mandatory for an African-American to grow up unbiased? What about the White intellectuals/writers/artists who grow up in all White environments? Does their lack of interaction with African-Americans make them biased?

 

Yeah, using you to get other people to spot what white fragility looks like. Works every time.

 

If Black fathers are so important it's a shame the criminal justice system uses such disparate sentencing for Black men vs. White men. This unfair sentencing causes Black men to spend many more years in prison than White men for committing the same crime.

 

So, how can we get rid of White privilege? How do we dismantle the systemic racism that permeates American life?

 

The author claims that most Whites get very upset and emotional when they are accused of being racist. Hence "fragile."

This she attributes to the idea that White people have of raci

A trivial number compared to the number of Black fathers killed by other Black fathers.
sts being "bad people."

 

Do they want to? I am no expert on rap music but I gather it is not big on promoting family values.

 

Dismantle the whole system. A necessary step for that is abolishing the police.

 

Of course they want to.

 

Here, we see the motivation for the left's efforts to make it as hard as possible for the law-abiding to exercise their right to keep and bear arms.

 

I was talking black on black murder. Are you saying it is not a shame blacks are killing other blacks, much less black fathers?

 

Your questions assume facts not in evidence.