“House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote“

I'm not sure what your point is.

The House has special powers over DC - powers that no state must live with.

 

False.

But, if you know of a justification for not makig DC a state, then place it here.

Handwaving at the various thoughts of our several founders is not an argument.

 

i have! Act 1 Sec 8 and federalist 43

 

Congress not just the House...because it’s a federal district...art 1 sect 8 of the US Constitution

 

again read federalist 43 the concerns still exist today

 

Why -wouldn't- I oppose a law passed with the sole purpose to increase the power of one political party relative to another?

 

They do.
Every state has 2 senators. Equal representation among and between the states.

 

I disagree.

Make your case that such an issue exists today.

As I've pointed out, you are right that they had concerns.

But, they also didn't count on factors that exist today. And, they didn't write into the constitution such requirements as you seem to think they did.

Everyone agrees that here will always be a federal district. But, what is at issue is its size, NOT its existence.

Washington chose 100 square miles as a limit on how big it could be. It was NOT set as a perpetual requirement

Within less than 100 years that size was found to an imposition on the economic growth of our nation that was serious enough to REQUIRE a change.

The problem they identified was that without the rights and powers of statehood, DC economic development was hamstrung.

That is stil true today. ALSO, DC is far more populous than it was originally, and the result is that the denial of representation of that many Americans is a TRAVESTY. It's a denial of the principles we stand for.


As for your arguments, why you actually make your argument I'm going to point out that proximity to the capitol campus is no longer an issue of ANY significance - nor will it ever be so again.

So, IF you ever decide to continue this conversation - MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT with the above in mind.

 

i have...the fact the richest counties in america are DC subs highlights the concerns still exist.

not what what they didn’t account for...what’s different? how did those concerns disappear??

 

You have to work to turn your opinions into some form of honest argument.

 

it can...with an amendment. By all means...try

 

You have to make your case.

So far, you have come up with some unstated idea concerning what some founder was worried about.

Obviously, that is NOWHERE NEAR good enough to justify denying representation, continuing taxation without representation, and the other travesties that have marked the situation in DC.

 

why do i have to write out Fedealist 43? go read it. The burden is on you to show there has been some sort of change to those concerns that they are no longer warranted

 

Amend the Constitution. It's been done before.

 

No need.
All of the issues supposedly behind the 'need' to make DC a state can be met by ceding the residential sections of DC back to Maryland, leaving only the areas occupied by the federal apparatus as part of DC.

 

sure go for it. we should have a debate about it, allow the 50 states a voice

 

a much easier way. dems don’t want to do that

 

Because it doesn't get them 2 senate seats.
That's all this is - a ploy to increase their power in the senate.
No one believes otherwise.

 

The people who are against statehood for Washingto DC are against it for two reasons:
1) Most of the residents of Washington DC are African-American.
2) Most of the residents of Washington DC are Democrats.

Moral of the story: They don't want African-Americans or Democrats to gain 2 Senate seats.

 

And why shouldn't they have power in the Senate?

 

You don't see a problem with a party passing legislation for the purpose of obtaining 2 new seats for themselves in the Senate?

 

NO.

 

Of course not - you;re one of the "win at all costs" people.
So, if the GOP decides to split Utah into 2 states, guaranteeing 2 additional GOP senators, you'll take no exception.
Right?

 

Utah already has statehood. Sorry.

 

Because the right already controls that power. They have unequal representation.