We are in a truth emergency

Fallacious reasoning is fallacious reasoning, regardless of when - and you CHOOSE to rest on a post hoc fallacy.
While you may illustrate correlation, you know you have no hope to demonstrate causation.

 

Yes, and the guy who told you CNN was 'fake news' is the same guy who said, out loud, on TV, that the National Enquirer should have gotten a Pullitzer for it's reportage on Ted Cruz's dad being in on the JFK assassination, not to mention injecting disinfectant into the bloodstream to fight covid.

Nice!

 

The lie part. Anyone who votes for Trump does not care about the planet.

 

Do you have an exact quote on that?

 

Anyone can have an opinion - but is it informed. You don't even offer an argument.

Explain your position - as I have explained mine previously - refute that position as well.

In case you need a memory refresh - "Pipelines Good" - Not building them "Bad"

and know you are going to lose this one.

 

That's a half truth. Correlation stats are used all the time in the evaluation of policy. Correlation stats are used in crime fighting. I'm sure there are other areas.

If Joe Blow were nearby on 100 different murders of different people, do you think a good detective would say:

"Correlation doesn't prove causation, so I won't bother hauling Joe in for questioning" ? If he were a good detective, he'd better haul Joe Blow in for questioning.

See, correlation doesn't absolutely prove causation, but it is a good place to start when one is looking for causation, and often is the first place to start. In some cases, it might be the only tool available to determine something, such as a policy that isn't easily quantifiable, such as 'employee morale'. Do you honestly believe that there is no correlation between employee morale and compensation?

So, in short, to say 'correlation is not causation' is to say a half truth.

A more truthful statement would be:

Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation but it can often be a useful tool to aid in the determination of causation.

Another example, Correlation disease decline statistics are often used to evaluate vaccine effectivness. Is there any other way to know?

One sure fire way to know if a vaccine works is to get a shot, wait two weeks (after shedding period) then intentionally inject the virus in your body to see if the vaccine prevents the disease. and that's not considered an ethical thing to do, so the only other thing they can do to determine if a vaccine is working is to look at disease decline statistics. In many cases, over the last century, many diseases are declining without the help of vaccines, so in those cases, they look to see if the decline rate is accelerated.

Correlation is, indeed, a tool used for many things, it all depends.

What if it were discovered that most successful pool champions never had more than a high school education?

Now there's a correlation that obviously doesn't equal causation.

You gotta use your brains, and part of using your brains is knowing when, and when not to use 'correlation is not causation' as an counter argument.

 

You should focus on using a dictionary more often, starting by looking up the term, 'ad hominem'. It's obvious you do not know what the word means.

 

... since Dopey Donald Trump's inauguration.

 

Here's what Trump said:

" And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that."

I don't know what planet you live on, but that query statement is door-knob stupid. Yes, at the presidential level, there is such a thing as a stupid question.


That much I do believe.

 

Anyone who says 'climate change is a chinese hoax' is a threat to the planet earth because of inaction about climate change.

 

He did not say someone should be injected with disinfectant. He asked if that would be possible. "So it'd be interesting to check that."

Saying he suggested that someone should inject themselves with disinfectant is fake news.

 

I'll restate the reply:

Yes, and the guy who told you CNN was 'fake news' is the same guy who said, out loud, on TV, that the National Enquirer should have gotten a Pulitzer for it's reportage on Ted Cruz's dad being in on the JFK assassination, not to mention this is the same guy who said ""And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.".

Nice!

 

I suggested no such thing, I'll reiterate what, in fact, I did say:

That we have a sitting president asking whether or not injecting disinfectant is a good idea to fight covid is an incredibly stupid thing for a president to ask, because, at the presidential level, there is such a thing as a stupid question.

That much I do believe. And that's not all, his incessant egregious tortured syntax is far below what we would expect of a president.

 

the national election is one election. Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3 million vote, proving that a majority of Americans wanted her, not Trump.

Only five times in history has the EC count agreed with the popular vote, and, as such, constitutes a fluke.

If it were intended for minorities to win, there would be far more than 5 times in history.

 

I told you before - I am not interested in Trump Bluster - this is about what direction the party is going on specific issues related to "The Whole Environment" .. not just "Climate Change".

Already you are Pigeon holing yourself and we have barely gotten started. The topic is Pipelines - which Biden wants to block - a terrible Environmental decision - based not on a lack of understanding of the subject - but based on political soul ditching.

The issue is enormous - name one that is bigger ? - but you don't care - you are trying to avoid the conversation for fear of illusions shattered. There are also huge economic consequences attached to this one ... so we have dumb and dumber x 2 enough to make this non partisan turn from blue - one who happens to hate Trump - and has no love for Red in general - but this is the direction of the planet we are talking - on a much bigger scale than you have considered - and you have my personal guarantee on that one.

 

If he thought it was a possibility, it is a question worth asking.

 

There's no such thing as a national election in this country. Each state has an election, and yes, they are all on the same day, but there is no national tally for anything beyond interesting factoids.

The EC may not be perfect, but it gives every state in the Union a voice. Montana has a tiny voice in the process, but to go with popular vote means several states, including Montana, have literally no say whatsoever. I can't support that.

 

The latest emergency, in my view, is the fact that Trump has now ordered hospitals to bypass the CDC and send all their covid data directly to him.

 

That does not negate the requirement to send the data to CDC. It just speeds up the process of getting it to the WH.

 

That's what the Senate is for, so you are being wildly inaccurate, to put it charitably.

The EC makes minority rule possible. The frequency with which the loser gets to be president will continue to grow. That will effectively disenfranchise the majority, in presidential elections.

Which is kinda the opposite of why we have elections in the first place.

 

So you figure that hospitals - who are already rammed - will take the time to send their info (which will be required in two separate formats) to both the CDC and the WH? Please.

 

What your really trying to get people to accept is Trump chose to believe something that was false in asserting the reason people were there was to object to a statue coming down (the march was organized by white nationalists) in order to justify his defense of white nationalists.

 

The polite way to say this is you are mistaken.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/the-white-house-spins-trumps-disinfectant-remarks/

 

Why two different formats? They just send out one message with another address. There are likely multiple addresses already.