White Fragility.

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  1. Pants

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    When I watched this I thought of your posts on this subject. I commend you for going pages and pages, continuing to shed light.
    https://www.ted.com/talks/darren_wa...izJNclNts54VY7YSY8wShoipaqxz9V8-VqE2wJ-nkzm5c
     
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    Yes. And it's even more of a shame that more than an order of magnitude more of them are killed by other black men who are not police. Some people seem to think this indicates that fewer black men would be killed if we "defunded" or even abolished the police, but I am skeptical.
     
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    ISTM white fragility is the same as black fragility: the natural defensive reaction to an unfounded presumption of guilt.
     
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    You can't have it both ways, if black people have chosen to be a society handicaps (as Affirmative Actions recipients) they are all responsible for the action of every black individual.
     
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    During his commentary Carlson said "we" read the book. I can't help wondering if by we he meant his racist, former head writer, Blake Neff, who then wrote some things for Tucker to say about it. Cuz stirring up controversy over race is more or less T's bread and butter. Not surprising when your commentary is in part written by a racist.
    T is going to have plenty of time to actually read the book during his time off.
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a33309669/tucker-carlson-writer-racism-fox-news-vacation/

    It's amazing how many times vacations at Faux coincide with events that would get any other talking head fired.
     
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    ...or DWB (driving while black)
     
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    sure but be honest do you think this published work will help or hinder her my guess is help, she engages in the right kind of thought for the particular religion she's trying to ascend in.
     
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    Well since the book is racist commentary in order to promote the author as enlightened, it kind of takes one to know one.
     
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    About as much "truth" as a Pentacostal minister speaks when he promises to lay on hands and heal people.

    White Fragility is a crock religion, telling white people they are "guilty of whiteness" and absolving them of their sins. It doesn't "fix" racism. It just allows white dogmatic disciples to feel superior to everyone else.....which is the original problem in the first place, right?

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    Help her or hinder her at what? Getting a full professorship? She doesn't need that. She's making over a million per year between speaking tours, training sessions, and book sales.

    By the time the public realizes that she's a cult snake-oil salesman, stop hiring her and reading her bible, it won't matter to her. She'll be set for life.
     
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    Did you read the book?

    Tucker in no way misrepresented the contents
     
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    I don't think white people are morally obligated to eliminate racism, which is what she teaches.
     
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    OK. Thanks for that admission.
     
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    No, she isn't teaching that white people are morally obligated to eliminate racism.

    She doesn't encourage any construction action
    ; she encourages self-absorbed reflection on your own feelings. She is preaching and proselytizing that white people should search their souls and feel guilty every day for being white in a country where whites have historically dominated society. There is really nothing that you can say or do which will ever make you completely a "non-fragile" white person, but just like a sinner absolving sin through constant repentance and prayer, you are to "work on yourself" every single day. Other than urging white people focus totally on white guilt, DiAngelo doesn't actually have any recommendations for eliminating racism. Just stare at your navel and repent for being part of white America and feel better about yourself for "doing the work".

    You must become as self-absorbed and introspective in your whiteness as the High Priestess herself to become "cleansed"! :rolleyes:

    Seems like the real result of the disciples is that they start acting weird, creepy, condescending and apologetic about and towards black people....kind of like evangelical Bible thumpers.
     
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    You realize AA isn't a Black only program?
     
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    Whoever make a claim about racism should present the evidence?
    So far no real evidence have been presented.
     
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    So?
    If black people want to be identified not as individuals but a kind of special organization, (country within the country) they should carry full responsibility for the actions of their members.
     
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    So you are not aware.

    You know when it was enacted the vast vast majority of congress was white. Still is. So white people made the program.
     
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    Black people support AA.
    If they receive benefits from government and taxpayers they should be responsible
     
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    White people support AA. That's why they created it.
    And to be really accurate. White men. Since they have had all the power for most of USA existence.
     
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    Then we have no issue with racism.
    It does not exist.
    The whole talk about racism is just a way to suck money from taxpayer.
     
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    So you don't know what AA is about?
     
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    The reason that much discussion about racism today is a dead end is that is starts with the assumptive fallacy of "all white people" or "all black people". There will never be any constructive debate, or change, unless people acknowledge truths such as "Some whites are racists, but not all whites are racists," and "Some blacks experience oppression, but not all blacks are oppressed". Until then, all we have is juvenile mud slinging contests about stereotypical tropes which both sides know are not accurate.

    White Fragility only exacerbates the "collectivist myth" and is regressive, not progressive for society.
     
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    Whatever it is, I personally refuse to recognize that racism exist, until monetary incentive is eliminated from the discussion.
    What is a point to even talk about racism if whole conversation about racism is about how to milk government for new benefits and privileges.
    I
     
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    It's called getting and being informed. Most want to be.
     

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