Does the positive side of tribalism/racism outshine the negative side?

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But why in God's name are you on "white nationalist websites"/
     
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    I think those will get everything else.

    Does the name Jeffrey Epstein ring a bell.

    Even in jail, they bought his death.

    Not all oligarch are equal. Many are decent and they show themselves when offering to pay back the spoils the governments push down their wallets.

    This overall situation has been here for a long time.

    Two short links for you.

    This was labelled as his speech on the Illuminati/oligarchs but I see they have insulted JFK with a new title for it.

    https://underground.net/the-making-...-exposes-secret-society-is-then-assassinated/



    Regards
    DL
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    No argument buddy.

    Lets hope our future improves.

    Soon, with computerization, they will not be able to hide what they do from us.

    That day is when our oligarch owners will either clean up their act, or the Jack Boots will be put on.

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    Not surprising.
     
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    Thanks for the good post.

    If you bonded with your parents, I don't think you can say that you lack that instinct.

    Given that we are the weakest and most insecure animal on the planet, our tribal instincts are usually strong.

    I'm not sure what sets our preference for beauty, but my two son's share my DNA and one went to the black while the other went to the white.

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    Likely the same reason atheists and non-believers know more about religion that the religious.

    We like to know our enemy better than he knows himself.

    Religions are shrinking for that strategic reason, even as their hierarchies are crying for decent apologists.

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    I enjoy investigating different points of view. I also enjoy political arguments.
     
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    Of course I bonded with my parents and my siblings.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But doesn't the term "white nationalist" completely define their point of view?
    Do they actually have any other point of view?
     
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    A white nationalist believes that white Gentiles have obligations to other white Gentiles that they do not have to people of other races. I disagree. I emphasize white Gentiles, because white nationalists to not think Jews are white, although they look white to me. White nationalists object to my admiration for Orientals and Jews, and to the fact that there are Negroes that I like, and have liked over the years.

    I could say that white nationalists are racists. However, the word "racist" has been used too broadly over the years and as a term of opprobrium, rather than description. White nationalists want, without specifically advocating, affirmative action policies for white Gentile men. They are nostalgic for the 1950's and before when non whites, women, and Jews were discriminated against in hiring and university admissions. Consequently, more opportunities were open to people like them.

    Anti racist Social Justice Warriors call me a racist because I believe that race is an important biological category of humans. I believe that the races differ significantly in average qualities necessary to civilization. These are intelligence as well as criminal and sexual behavior. These differences are the result of evolving for several thousand years in response to different population pressures.

    I do not run from being called a racist. Nevertheless, I do not believe that my race - the race of white Gentiles of European ancestry - is superior to all of the others. Moreover, the characteristics necessary to civilization - intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy - can be found in each of the races, although not in the same proportions. Low intelligence, crime, and promiscuity can also be found in each of the races.

    Needless to say, my opinions are provocative and controversial. Nevertheless, I try to present them calmly, politely, and with fact based and rational arguments. When I am flamed I point out that name calling and insults are the recourse of those who cannot defend their opinions.
     
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    Okay...but do you see reason for their fears of whites being sidelined somehow?
    Or are they afraid Blacks will take over and retaliate for whites abusing them?
     
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    Then your tribal instinct is intact my friend.

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    DL
     
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    Have you read any of the bell curve research that was done to measure the intelligence of the various colors? I term it that way because I see only one race. The human race.

    Those researchers did not find the whites to be at the top of the curve.

    You said you did some research to reach your opinion, but I guess you missed that type of research.

    Even Hitler kept Jews around to help make his production work better. So much for white supremacy.

    The fittest or best intelligence is color blind, but at the moment, whites are certainly not at the top.

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    I see our differences as more cultural than anything ethnic. I'd pass my genes along with any 'color' of woman who is fit, intelligent, wise and adaptable before I'd pass them along with a woman who is not but is merely in my genetic 'tribe.'
     
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    A decent way to think and act.

    Women tend to have your flexibility more than men do. They blame that on women by saying they are less loyal to their in groups.

    I see it as just good sense. I think it intelligent to put ones own genetic advancement ahead of tribal considerations. Better an intelligent half breed than a stupid full blooded.

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    Great....that narrows your choices down to liberals and democrats...
     
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    Classical liberals, definitely.
     
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    Blacks will never become the majority race in the United States, or even the plurality race. They will not have Orientals and Hispanics as allies.
     
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    But you find ways to accept many things that don’t adhere to those standards.
    Trump for instance
     
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    Folks... just stop

    Racism is a negative trait.. to be overcome, ignored, buried

    Not celebrated or excused
     
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    The Balkanization of the USA, as promoted with such destructive concepts as "multiculturalism", are succeeding with the goal of weakening the country. If that's what is wanted, then it's a positive.
     
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    My authority on intrinsic racial differences, and the racial hierarchy is Professor J. Philippe Rushton. This is what he has to say about racial differences in average IQ:

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    RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE REVISED
    EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN, By J. Philippe Rushton


    Department of Psychology
    University of Western Ontario
    London, Ontario N6A 5C2

    Gould withholds from his readers that The Bell Curve is mainly an empirical work about the causes of social stratification and that it reached its conclusions only after fully analyzing a 12-year longitudinal study of 12,486 youths (3,022 of whom were African American) which showed that most 17-year-olds with high IQs (Blacks as well as Whites) went on to occupational success by their late 20s and early 30s whereas many of those with low IQs (both Black and White) went on to welfare dependency. The average IQ for African Americans was found to be lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 115, respectively, pp. 273 - 278. Failure to mention these data fosters the false belief that IQ tests are not predictive and are biased in favor of North Europeans.
    http://www.cpsimoes.net/artigos/art_rush.html

    In his essay, "Race, Evolution, and Behavior" Professor Rushton points out that Orientals tend to be more intelligent, obedient to the law, and monogamous than whites, who tend to be more intelligent, obedient to the law, and monogamous than Negroes.
    http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

    Like me, Professor Rushton attributes these racial differences to genetic differences.

    In his essay, "The Inequality Taboo," Charles Murray wrote:

    "The Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin originated the idea of race as a social construct in 1972, arguing that the genetic differences across races were so trivial that no scientist working exclusively with genetic data would sort people into blacks, whites, or Asians. In his words, "racial classification is now seen to be of virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance."

    "Lewontin's position, which quickly became a tenet of political correctness, carried with it a potential means of being falsified. If he was correct, then a statistical analysis of genetic markers would not produce clusters corresponding to common racial labels. In the last few years, that test has become feasible, and now we know that Lewontin was wrong. Several analyses have confirmed the genetic reality of group identities going under the label of race or ethnicity. In the most recent, published this year, all but five of the 3,636 subjects fell into the cluster of genetic markers corresponding to their self identified ethnic group. When a statistical procedure, blind to physical characteristics and working exclusively with genetic information, classifies 99.9 percent of the individuals in a large sample in the same way they classify themselves, it is hard to argue that race is imaginary."
    http://www.iapsych.com/wj3ewok/LinkedDocuments/Murray2005.pdf
     
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    No Yin to your Yang.

    A rather dumb position to take in a dualistic world.

    Racism is analogous to tribal and we all have tribal instincts that basically rule us.

    Better to recognize how racist and tribal we are and try to mitigate the damage.

    You yourself are racist and I can prove it to you should you wish to try to show otherwise.

    We are tribal and racist for the fellowship that out tribe provides.

    What are your tribal affiliations, be they religious or political? What is your color?

    I do not care what it is. I only ask in case you want to try to fail my little test that shows we all discriminate for our own against the other.

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    Trump comes closer than anyone the Dems have nominated since JFK.
     
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    LOL.

    That idiocy when talking of a country that tells African Americans to go home, after dragging them into the country as slaves.

    American whites Balkanized themselves and now are taking that out by victim blaming.

    Go away fool.

    Regards
    DL
     

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