Palestinian Girl Cries As Israelis Bulldoze Her Home

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  1. Grau

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    Facebook is hardly a credible source and if I were a resident of Wadi Foquin, I would want the world to see what sort of misery the Israelis were inflicting on my land.

    Yet another source confirms the problem of raw sewage being dumped into Wadi Foquin:

    "About Wadi Foquin: A Village Under Occupation"
    https://www.friendsofwadifoquin.com/about-wadi-foquin.html


    Like many other villages in the West Bank, Wadi Foquin is losing generations-old farmland due to settlement construction and extension of Israel’s separation barrier, both illegal under international law. Since 1948, in fact, fully three-quarters of the village’s land has been expropriated by the Israeli government. Dynamiting for settlement construction has also dried up many of the natural springs used for irrigation, and construction debris and raw sewage discharged from Betar Illit have contaminated fields and made them unsuitable for growing.
     
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    Non-crazy terrorist governors people. Surely there must be a few sane Palestinians who'd be up to the task, no?
     
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    Quote my ENTIRE post and the answer is yes.

     
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    The world doesn't care, because of all the terrorism.

    Stop all that, and maybe somebody besides the farcical UN, virtue-signalling leftists(who don't really care beyond calling attention to themselves), and your terror buddies over in Iran, will care.
     
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    the map is terribly dishonest and false.
     
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    clearly a Judeophile
     
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    Please explain how this map is dishonest and false.

    Pretty please. With a cherry on top.

    Shrinking-Palestine.jpg
     
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    the 1946 map lists jewish-owned land in white, and state-owned land and arab-owned land in green.

    state-owned land in Palestine was for ALL inhabitants, not just Arabs. therefore the map is a lie.
     
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    I repeat ... it's not my map. It's Creasy Tvedt's map. Blame him, not me.
     
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    Yeah, Ron! Stop yelling at thingybob because of my dumb and fake map!

    Such a bully.
     
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    It's Creasy Tvedt's map. Blame it on him.
     
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    I shall.

    Damn you, Creasy Tvedt!
     
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    This brings us back to a question you never really answered.

    If nobody cared about the oldest and most murderous foreign funded occupation in history, why does the Israeli government employ 15,000 paid, trained and scripted Hasbara Trolls in 73 countries who use an app. called ACT.IL ?



    “Here’s how to deal with extremist pro-Israeli trolls on social media”
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/06/...extremist-pro-israeli-trolls-on-social-media/

    EXCERPT "We have known for a long time that the Israeli government funds intensive online attacks against people who criticise their policies or express support for the BDS movement (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) against Israel or actively support the Palestinian struggle for human rights.

    A person attacked in this way will find messages posted online calling them a “Nazi”, “anti-Semite”, “Jew-hater” etc and will typically feel shocked and overwhelmed.

    Now we know the details of how this works.

    In many cases these attacks will be from a single person using multiple on-line identities on behalf of an Israeli government funded group called ACT.IL

    A leaked report obtained by Electronic Intifada last week gives details of ACT.IL and how it works." CONTINUED

    ____________________

    Reviling individuals who criticize the grotesque atrocities committed by the Israeli government (not "the Jews") as "anti Semites", "Jew haters", "Neo Nazis" is no longer an effective ploy because most of us are aware of what is called "the trick":

    “WELL, IT’S A TRICK, WE ALWAYS USE IT. WHEN FROM EUROPE SOMEBODY IS CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN WE BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST. WHEN IN THIS COUNTRY (THE US) PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN THEY ARE ANTI-SEMITIC…..IT’S VERY EASY TO BLAME PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE CERTAIN ACTS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AS ANTI-SEMITIC, AND TO BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THAT IS TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING WE DO TO THE PALESTINIANS.”
    former Israeli Education Minister Shulamit Aloni.
     
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    Oh noes! It's the twitter JOOS!

    Social media trolling? Really?

    If the Palestinians were only terrorists on twitter, instead of in reality, maybe people would actually care about their plight.

    Speaking of real life, what's your take on the real life Martyr's Fund? Are you a big fan?

    US wants to limit Palestinian aid over the country's "martyr fund"

    www.businessinsider.com › ... › Politics Contributors
    Mar 22, 2018 - The act is intended to stop the Palestinians from paying stipends, referred to as “martyr payments,” to the families of militants killed or imprisoned ...
     
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    Clearly :applause:
     
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    Sounds more like a major war caused an influx of immigration into Israel and instead of working with the refugees, Palestinians reacted with violence.

    Just like many I know here in Kentucky and Ohio would react to today's influx of immigration if they were living in the relatively lawless regions of 1940's Levant.

    Add in the religious difference and other nations around the world willing to arm each side and you have enduring conflict.
     
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    What do you mean, Facebook is not a credible source? It's the Facebook page of the village, not something written by outsiders.

    The village was almost flooded by rain water in 2018. At the time, some blamed construction of new buildings in an Israeli neighborhood for the flood, but wastewater wasn't mentioned anywhere. Neither was Betar Ilit named as the culprit, and the settlement certainly doesn't surround the village as your sources claim.

    Friends of Wadi Foquin site doesn't say anything about wastewater.
    https://www.friendsofwadifoquin.com/

    Your sources are lying.
     
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    You don't seem to be aware of the hate filled greed and fanaticism that was brought to Palestine by the Nazi trained and funded Zionist terrorist gangs(1) who introduced terrorism to Palestine.

    Irgun, Haganah, Lehi etc were not comprised of desperation and helpless refugees. They were heavily armed, messianic killers for whom no amount of Arab land was enough. They also worked with Germany's National Socialist government to ensure that fleeing Jews could only go to Palestine when other countries were willing to take them.

    Palestine's native Jews, however, got along relatively well with Palestine's native Christian and Muslim Arabs(2) until the arrival of these European, Zionist terrorist gangs.

    As you mentioned, it's not just the Palestinian Arabs who would react negatively to a massive influx of foreign immigrants. How do you suppose the residents of Kentucky and Ohio would react to foreign funded terrorist gangs and land thieves.




    (1) "Nazis SS Funded Nascent Israeli Army"
    https://www.henrymakow.com/israeli_haganah.html
    EXCERPT "In his 1988 book "Blowback," Christopher Simpson says captured SS records documented a covert agreement between the SS and the Haganah, the forerunner of the Israeli Defense Force. They funded at least one Haganah commander.

    "Under the arrangement the Haganah was permitted to run training camps for Jewish youth inside Germany. These young people, as well as certain other Jews driven out of Germany by the Nazis, were encouraged to emigrate to Palestine.

    [Haganah Commander Feival] Polkes and the Haganah, in return, agreed to provide the SS with intelligence about British affairs in Palestine. Captured German records claim that Polkes believed the increasingly brutal Nazi persecution of the Jews could be turned to Zionist advantage-at least temporarily-by compelling Jewish immigration to Palestine, and that the Haganah commander's sole source of income, moreover, was secret funds from the SS." CONTINUED



    (2)“Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

    EXCERPT "Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

    Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

    The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies."CONTINUED
     
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    It was the Friends of Wadi Foquin source that I cited in my previous comment.

    Additionally:

    "[BRIEFING] Israeli Settlements,
    Bethlehem & the Village of Wadi Foquin"
    https://www.hillhappenings.com/list...tlements-bethlehem-the-village-of-wadi-foquin

    EXCERPT "Betar Illit is one of two settlements that border Wadi Foquin. In Wadi Foquin, dynamiting for settlement construction has dried up many of the natural springs used for irrigation, and construction debris and raw sewage discharged from Betar Illit have contaminated fields, making them unsuitable for growing." CONTINUED


    That's 3 sources I've cited that report the same crime. Are all 3 of them lying?
     
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    So, after 80 years, the Palestinians are still puppets doing the bidding of the Nazi terrorist Zionist gangs of EIGHTY YEARS AGO?

    That's like if I shot my neighbor, and then blamed it on my grandfather's sniper training in World War II.

    The Palestinians need to stop blaming their terrorism on anybody and everybody but the Palestinians, or everybody will keep right on not caring about their plight.

    And you never answered my question about the Martyr's Fund.
     
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    Here's a 4th source that reports raw sewage being dumped into Wadi Foquin:


    Alameda’s Buena Vista Methodist Church, others aiding Palestinian village
    https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2012/1...ist-church-others-aiding-palestinian-village/

    EXCERPT "Currently, Wadi Foquin has seen much of its land annexed and much of its remaining area damaged by runoffs of construction debris and raw sewage from an encroaching — and what many call an illegal — settlement." CONTINUED

     
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    While the The Palestinians of Wadi Foquin are kvetching about Jew poop in their potato patch, let's take a gander at how Palestinians elsewhere in the Middle East are faring, shall we?

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    View attachment 123763 Middle East Eye
    Palestinians' homes stolen once again as Assad eyes Syria's
    Syria's Yarmouk camp
    Palestinian refugees have endured bombings and sieges during the Syrian war. Now they face the confiscation of their houses. Children in the ...
    2 weeks ago
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syria-palestinians-assad-homes-stolen-yarmouk-camp
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    upload_2020-8-18_17-5-51.png Syrian Network For Human Rights
    3196 Syrian Palestinians Were Killed by Syrian Regime ...
    “Palestinian refugees in Syria, including women and children, particularly those forcibly disappeared and displaced by the indiscriminate attacks ...
    3 weeks ago
    http://sn4hr.org/blog/2020/07/29/55316/

    Pakistan Today
    Has the Arab World given up on Palestine?
    Jordan has imposed huge taxes on Palestinian refugees and citizens. Lebanon, Libya and Egypt discriminated against Palestinians.
    4 days ago

    https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2020/08/15/has-the-arab-world-given-up-on-palestine/
     
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    I will read your links when I have a little time. But it's going to be tough to convince me that at the same time an ethnic group was docilely led to their deaths in Europe, the same group adopted a terroristic mindset across the Mediterranean. All sides largely killed civilians in WWII. Except the Jews.
     
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    Don't bother.

    I looked at that page, and it's 20 pounds of conspiracy theory nuttiness stuffed into a 10-lb-capacity tinfoil hat.

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    Almost all religious groups view themselves as superior. Up to 2013, Catholics believed that all non-Catholics will suffer for Eternity.

    There is no parallel in Judaism.
     

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