Rioting and Looting in Chicago

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  1. ricmortis

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    I have read in some areas, the black people have left the protests due to their disgust over the white people taking over with their own agendas and propaganda. I bet if a BLM black person tried to argue with those protestors, he would be labeled an Uncle Tom and be drowned by their screams of hate. Personally, I think they are all Antifa taking over the BLM.
     
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    I am trying to figure out how a white man who doesn't live in America, who has NEVER associated with black folks in America got to be such an expert on black folks in America. That is what you call International anti-black BS. Is it time to address all the bad whites who engage in crime from street crime to white collar crime.
     
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    Whoever said that "white" was the ethnic group on the part of myself?
     
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    Now the news is coming out that the George Floyd's status in "martyrdom" may be in jeopardy!

    Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-cop-attorney-george-floyd-fentanyl-overdose


    An autopsy report said toxicology testing found fentanyl and methamphetamine in Floyd’s system

    This should probably be put into a new thread, but because it was primarily the aftermath of the "Floyd incident" that spawned all the rioting, arson, destruction, looting, etc., it's worth considering now.

    Note: If the cop's case is dismissed, it will simply be used as a pretext for even MORE "rioting, arson, destruction, looting, etc."

    Maybe the real 'take-away' should be -- if you want to stay out of trouble with the police, don't get hopped up on drugs and then go and commit a federal crime involving counterfeit money!

    [​IMG]. "
    Whudda concept!"
     
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    If it isn't you are doing a great job of hiding it.
     
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    The black community of the united states, the one marked by the mindset of entitlements, outrage, and clamoring for demeaning government handouts that incentivize learned helplessness, is looked down upon by the black communities of other countries. Those in the united states are a disgrace who do not know or understand what true hardship really is. Those in the united states scream endlessly about racism because they do not like depictions in the media. Those in other countries are too busy working to actually care about negative media portrayals that do not actually amount to anything.
     
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    You mean the same handouts and entitlements that whites are receiving. What % of black folks in the United States do you think are receiving these handouts and entitlements?

    Give me some examples of TRUE HARDSHIP.

    Can you tell me how you know what black folks in America are doing when you don't even live in America, please explain that for me.
     
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    They are equally worthless. As are the politicians who support handouts that bring as much or greater revenue than one who has to go out and earn it through forty hours of work per week.

    Currently? An estimated sixty seven percent of the total numbers. It is largely dependent on what percentage of the black community resides within states managed to the liberal democrat side of the political divide for decades.

    Being a female individual and forced to live every day with the knowledge that the male relatives of your family will murder you for being raped, without so much as a second thought, because your being raped serves to bring dishonor to their family.

    Being told to surrender your pet so that it can be butchered for meat to feed others, because owning a pet has been declared a symbol of extravagance.

    Being told by society at large that the sins of your ancestors are yours to pay for because of who you were born to, and what was done by them centuries ago.

    Waking up to the realization of having been tricked into working against your own self-interests because of catchy slogans deliberately designed to invoke an intense emotional response that would prevent coherent thought from being used.

    Research. A great deal of research spread across numerous nations and continents, that has ultimately led to the conclusion that the entire human species deserves nothing less than total extinction.

    Perhaps the species did not start out as a mistake. But it certainly allowed itself to become a mistake through its own actions.
     
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    To be fair that's a problem with Americans in general, not just black Americans. I understand that life is relative but the amount of people in America who complain is simply not justified in the grand scheme of things. I've seen true hardship and poverty and misery, it's really not that bad in America....

    As my father used to say to me growing up when I'd complain. "Let me drop your little ass off in a place like Somalia for a week and you'll be on your hands and knees crying and begging to come home, stop whining".

    Now granted just because America isn't as bad as a third world country or something doesn't mean we shouldn't be working to still make it better here, however, the overwhelming vast majority of whining folks do in America is the literal definition of "first world problems". Folks know that which is why you don't see a mass exodus from this so called "racist and bigoted evil country" by those who keep calling it that.
     
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    So what do you want? When Blacks act like and are treated like anyone else, they are called Uncle Tom's (see the movie). Again what do you want?
     
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    that has to be the ultimate strawman since nobody ever said somalia was better that usa in standards of living and no, idont dig your meaning
     
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    Over half the world can qualify as Nightmare 515's Somalia. 99.9999% of all human existence, if we want to show how rare our circumstances are, has been worse than modern day Somalia.

    Work to improve our condition, let's not destroy it because it isn't yet perfect.
     
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    The point is that it's not that bad in America regardless of what race you are. Folks are running around calling this country racist and bigoted and evil as if those are accurate representations of America, they aren't.

    If America was anywhere near as "bad" towards black people as many black people claim then I sure as hell wouldn't stay here. As said by another poster there are multiple first world nations with black communities that are doing "better" overall than the black community in America. If I, as a black man in America, thought my country was so terrible towards me then I would relocate to one of those other places where I am treated more fairly.

    But seeing how I understand that the majority of the complaints being presented by the black community in America are utter nonsense I choose to stay here and live peacefully without experiencing most of the negatives that supposedly come with being black in America. For example I was out fishing yesterday and was sitting in the back of my truck eating lunch when a cop rolled up. He asked how everything was going and asked to see my fishing license (they do that around here). I didn't freak out and panic and think oh my god this white cop is about to shoot me for being black and sitting here eating lunch by the river....I reached into my pocket and the cop didn't say gun! Fire! In fact I've had multiple interactions with the police from all over this country and that has never actually happened. But according to BLM and company the cops are running around just murdering black men for no reason whatsoever.

    If I lived in a country full of cops that were as BLM portrays them then I sure as hell wouldn't live here. If I lived in a country to where my dark skin literally kept me at the bottom of a caste system then I sure as hell wouldn't live here.

    But seeing how I've managed to be black and male in America for decades and somehow not remain stuck in poverty and/or murdered by the cops at a routine traffic stop I tend to believe that the sentiments of BLM and company are grossly exaggerated. In fact I'm doing better than the overwhelming majority of white Americans as far as financial stability and overall quality of life. I wonder how that happened in a country full of institutional racism that keeps people who look like me down.

    No no, I'm not the "exception to the rule", if the COUNTRY is racist and designed to keep me down then there is no way I could have slipped through the cracks. In a racist country there is no way in hell that the powerful white establishment here would have allowed this black guy to be successful to the point where he screws off more money a month than most white Americans earn on their entire paychecks.

    And no I can't dribble a ball or sing. I wonder how that happened in a place like this?
     
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    Oh, no... not this old thing about "who collects the most welfare in the U. S.?"

    Ever since the last 'Great Recession' in 2007, the amount of welfare collected by whites is greater than blacks. BUT, on a per capita basis, blacks receive quite a lot more! Why? Because whites make up about 71% of the population of the United States -- and blacks make up slightly less than 14%....
     
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    how do you explain the cop walking around freely after the killing of eric garner then?
     
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    He was innocent. That's one explanation.
     
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    thanks for helping me prove america is a racist pit hole.
     
  18. Nightmare515

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    He was found innocent in the court of law. He was fired though.

    My turn.

    How do you explain a black guy with a name "Barack Hussein Obama" being elected President of the United States twice in a row in an evil bigoted nation that is supposedly full of institutional racism targeting black people?
     
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    guessing that he was voted in by the public. that doesnt mean those who really control, america, the elite upper class, are not racist and have made it a racist hell hole.

    as for the eric garner homicide. that the "law" found the cop innocent should be enough to back up my statement. the "law" is at the whim of the money man. if you throw enough money at any case you will be acquitted, just depends how much money you are willing to spend.
     
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    So just to make sure we are on the same page. America, a "racist hell hole" elected a black man to be President, twice.

    If the "elite upper class" who "really control America" are racist then how did they allow a black man to become President? They are doing a pretty terrible job at "really controlling America" if they can't even control who gets elected to the head of state....You would think with all of that money, power, and influence these racist elites would have stopped that from happening if they are who "really" controls America. You have to be pretty terrible at "really controlling" something if you don't even have the power to stop the unwashed masses from overriding you.

    I would also think that they would have stopped me, as a black man who can't catch a football for their entertainment, from being successful and earning more money than most of the white people around me. I mean the cops supposedly have no issue just murdering black men on a routine basis for no reason whatsoever and getting away with it so what are they waiting for? Why are they spending their time and energy taking out poor black folks in the inner city all the time? How is that helping the cause? Why don't they come get me instead? The poor black drug dealer isn't interfering in white society, I am. White people call me Sir at work and come into my office whenever I call their name. I have power and influence and money. I'm much more of a threat to the so called "white authority" of America than the random low level drug dealer in NYC.

    So...why am I not dead? Not like the opportunity hasn't presented itself, in fact a few days ago I spent about 45 minutes chatting it up with a random cop while sitting in the back of my pickup truck eating lunch. I live in the sticks too and he was the only one there he could have easily just taken me out and tossed me in the river or something and none would have been the wiser. Maybe he didn't get the message from his elite white authoritarian overlords in the shadows...The next time I see him I'll make sure to let him know that he's supposed to kill me instead of giving me grid coordinates to his secret fishing spot.
     
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    so you ignored my eric garner point?

    as for you and obama being successful, granted. perhaps you both plugged into the matrix. your personal acquittal of daniel panteleo speaks volumes. that was as straightforward murder as you would expect to see. eyes wide shut?
     
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    The individual Eric Garner is worth forgetting. He was nothing more than simply one more convicted felon who made the conscious decision to commit an act he already knew was illegal, as he was out on bail for having done the same thing previously, and chose to refuse to comply with a lawful order from law enforcement to surrender to a legitimate arrest. He chose to physically resist efforts at being detained for illegal activity.

    Do not commit a crime, do not resist arrest, do not get killed in response. The matter is truly that simple. He knew his actions were illegal, but decided the law simply did not apply to him.
     
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    I didn't acquit Panteleo, the courts did. I wasn't on that trial so I had no bearing in that decision. Either way, isolated incidents do not give credit to your statement that America is a racist hell hole run by racist rich white people in the shadows.

    But if we want to use statistical factually irrefutable numbers to justify a position then so be it. Although more white people are killed by police annually than black people more blacks per capita are killed by the police. So using that data some like to conclude that America is a racist country.

    Fine. My turn.

    Based on statistical factually irrefutable numbers black people murder more Americans than any other race. Black people commit more murder OVERALL than any other race while being less than 13% of the US population. Run the per capita numbers and it's even worse.

    Based on raw irrefutable data the overwhelming majority of black people killed in America are killed at the hands of other black people. Out of the total number of police killings over the years roughly 32% of those were black, 68% were other races combined. Out of the total number of blacks killed in the past years 89% were killed by other blacks, 11% killed by other races.

    In 2018 228 black people were killed by the police. 7,407 black people were murdered in America in 2018. 89% of 7,407 is 6,592 which means that the police killed 228 black people in 2018 and black people killed 6,592 black people in 2018. Black people killed 28x as many black people in 2018 than the police did.

    I, as a black man in America, am 28x more likely to be killed by people who have my same skin color than I am of people wearing blue uniforms. So based on raw data, I should be more afraid of my own people than the police by a long shot.

    So since we are using data to make statements about America being a racist country then I will do the same. I will use raw data to conclude that "black male" is the single most dangerous entity in America in regards to public safety.

    If America is "racist" because police kill more blacks per capita than other races then black people are the single most violent and dangerous demographic in America because not only do they kill more Americans than anyone else per capita they also kill more Americans than anyone else PERIOD.

    Fair?
     
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    Difficult to get someone that large to comply with a lawful order. They could have tried a taser, but with his heart being in that horrible condition it likely wouldn't have ended with the same results.
     
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    When said large individual has no respect for the rule of law, and believes they are free to do whatever they wish, whenever they wish, simply because it is what they wish.

    The result would likely have been the same, with Eric Garner dying regardless. Just like George Floyd, he was essentially already dead before his arrest.
     
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