Man injured after officer involved shooting in Kenosha

It's like standing there and them telling you to get your arms up and you reach behind you, or into a jacket. That WILL be taken as reaching for a gun and you WILL be shot, not TASED..............SHOT.

 

Similar situations.. Suspect reaching into car.. You claimed it did not matter what was in the car.. I should you a real life situation why you are wrong.

YOU have the benefit of sitting here AFTER the fact and judging... Be thankful you are not in LE or you would not be with us with your attitude.

 

You realize we still lack proper context. A domestic incident was the original call. That could mean a very loud argument. It doesn't mean actual violence was happening. We don't know from the video what happened before it. So to presume the police did everything right is no more valid a conclusion than presuming the black guy did nothing wrong at all. It's not clear if Blake was the one police were even called on. It's also not clear why they would want to stop him, or rather, we don't know their motive to. And as such, it's impossible to know if Blake needed to heed their words or not. After all, you DON'T have to do everything a cop says, it depends on the circumstances and what they are asking of you.

 

Facts are hard to dispute aren't they. They had NO obligation to TASE him first, he was resisting, he was armed and refused to drop the weapon and then tried to get at another one according to their reasonable reaction to him. Your are correct in that you have no argument here.

 

But this flies in the face of any routine traffic stop I've been involved in. I have often reached into the glove box while the officer was approaching my car to get my insurance and registration. They never presumed I was reaching for a weapon.

 

My statement that it did not matter what was in the car referred to that fact that the officers had a total of seven seconds to prevent him from accessing it. Instead they followed him up to that point that it did matter and left themselves with no option other than to shoot. Those were the actions i was assessing. Those were the ones I found fault with.

I don’t have to be thankful I’m not an LEO because I’d never take the job in the first place. What was the point of this comment?

 

I don’t argue against facts. Which is why I stopped arguing with you when presented with evidence contrary to my arguments.

Do you make it a habit of rubbing peoples’ noses in shiet after arguments?

 

The domestic incident is of no matter. We have the witness testimony and the video, he was armed he was refusing the lawful orders of the police he tried to flee and opened the door to the car and reached in.....................end of story. And yes if they are arresting or even lawfully detaining you you have to do what they say. Doesn't matter if he was or was not the person they were called on.

 

I'm not saying that hasn't happened...

I'm saying you can count on one hand the number of times instances played out like that.

 

No nose rubbing I posted the link once to you and then you asked me to do it again, keep up with the post.

 

when was the last time CNN, MSNBC etc had national coverage of a white person getting shot by cops? Because there is over twice as many white people killed by police then black people. But the only coverage is if it was a black guy got shot by a white cop.

 

I reply to new posts in the order that I receive them.

 

Oh I think it is more than that and it's a lawful shooting if the suspect refuses to put their hands up and then reaches for where there could be a weapon.

 

I gave you video of an actual shooting you give me yah but not from what i have experienced.. blah blah blah.

 

You can't just shoot someone for resisting arrest, unless the crime they are suspected of is severe AND they pose a danger to others or the officer. Those facts have yet to be established, so you don't have a lot of facts yet. Resisting arrest does not sentence you to death and is often a misdemeanor though it's tied to the crime you are being arrested for. What was he being arrested for? And I don't think it's a fact yet that he was armed. The witnesses indicate he arrived to break up a fight and retrieve his children. If that is all he did, and if he was unarmed, he posed little threat to the police based solely on those facts.

 

Another poster rightly suggested this line of dialogue was off topic. Not going to chase it now given that.

 

He HAD A KNIFE, I don't know why you are hung up on the seven seconds, they were yelling at him to stop and drop the knife, according to the witness he was even TASED and blew through that then opened a car door and reached in. Why do you believe he should have been allowed to grab the gun the officers had every reason to believe he was going after?

 

I'd bet money that's what he was making as a beat cop.

 

You gave me nothing. I'm merely stating that people reach into vehicles or make unintentionally threatening moves all the time, many times, in full view of the police. Many after being stopped by the police. If I've done it, many others have. Are you saying you have never done this? Have you ever been pulled over for traffic infractions?

 

Yes and if i am going to reach for something i tell the officer what i am doing as i am doing it.. outside of that hands on the wheel.

I gave you a video of a shooting. If you dont want to watch it run along and bother someone else with your nice stories.

 

Already acknowledged the witness statement. I’m responding to a poster that asked me to clarify my previous statements. That’s what I did.
Lay off, friend.

 

I mean... do you believe it shouldn't be?

Would you assume a two time felon with an open warrant was going to their car for their cell phone charger?

 

No it's not because the MSM gins up these stories, watch the link to the CBS story this I posted. The blaming the police the "shot in the back so must be murder" narrative. Lies by omission leaving out the pertinent facts, the "and this is why we need Black Lives Matter" statements.

 

I don’t have to hate the police to be critical of the police. It’s a shame you can’t see the difference.

 

Actually something pretty similar did happen last week:
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ng-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game.576622/

Cops shot a white guy in the back as he was surrendering. No riots, no looting. To my knowledge no charges against the officers. I don't recall seeing media outrage over this one. But I am sure we will see plenty over this case in WI, simply because the perp was black.