Our Country is Burning - So What Goes?

President Trump will be visiting the West Coast, and of course the Democrats are using the fires for their own political expediency and blaming it on global warming. Naturally there is global warming, but I doubt it's from the emissions. More than likely it's what we are and what we do otherwise. But that's a Christian moral and spiritual perspective on how man affects everything around him, which I'd rather not go into.

What's not mentioned, is that our main fire fighting helicopters are now in Afghanistan, and that our 'enemy' Russia could loan us some of their equipment. But then again, when you want nations to be enemies, you don't ask for help.

My first thought was to look up the amateur earthquake expert Dutchsince, which is not that easy since he's being censored all the time. I recall with the last fires on the West Coast he made an amazing observation. Before a fire would break out the area would show up in red on the satellite maps. This meant that heat was coming up from the ground. The fires all turned out to be around volcano fields.

I found a video from 2 days ago and Dutchsinse noticed that the fires in Idaho like some of the others, were breaking out in an equal distance from one another. This meant that groups of people were either setting them up in a line, which is unlikely, or it had something to do with the Yellowstone magma below.

Anyway here's the video with the photo, so you can form your own opinion.

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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6190279137001#sp=show-clips

 

Trump's comments on wildfire could not POSSIBLY be more insultingly stupid.

He clearly has no understanding of what's going on in nature.

His ignorance starts with his comments on "leaves" and keeping tens of millions of acres of public and private nature "clean".

And, his use of this tragedy as an assault on the leadership of states he HATES is just plain disgusting.

 

If you're talking about cleaning up the forests, it's what Trump is being told, and it's the only thing that can be done to slow the fires other than pouring massive amounts of water on the hot areas - which is impossible. As for what Dutchsince noticed, no geologist wants to admit he's right. They've been bad mouthing him for years for correctly predicting earthquakes by following the magma flows. After all, they were taught in school earthquakes can't be predicted - which means it must be so.

Dutchsinse deserves the Nobel peace prize.

So you think the Democrat mayors and governors that allowed all the vandalism and criminality to go on, so they could hold on to votes are not to blame? Interesting!

 

Again, this "sweep up the leaves" thing is absolute and total ignorance.

On the western slopes of the western states the primary tree species shed needles. That is their natural way of reducing underbrush. If one were to remove that material, the natural forest land progression would be upset, leading to vast amounts more dried brush.

Also, the spread in these areas has a lot to do with grass that dries when deprived of water and heated. What's Trump want to do about that - mow millions of acres of grass in and near forests???

Regardless of his "sources", he is absolutely IGNORANT about western forest lands and the fires experienced here. And, for him to come in and claim he knows something just points out what a clown he is.

Seismology and magma movement are carefully studied throughout ALL Pacific Rim nations for obvious and not so obvious reasons. It's certainly a highly respected and well funded field here in the west.

NOBODY here would suggest that seismology isn't important.

The prolem with your guy is that statistically speaking he's always WRONG.

As for fires, blaming forest fires on maga or terrorists or whatever without actually going out and finding why fires started is what is considered ignorance. Most of the fires we're seeing were started by lightening. There are patterns in how lightening works, especially when there are high tension transmission lines and other ordered structre. And, humans are responsible for some.

One in CA was started by a guy who was doing a fireworks display as part of a "gender reveal" party!

The reason for the huge number of fires right now is that there has been a long lasting heat wave of serious proportions and no rain. So, anything that starts pretty much explodes beyond human control.

 

So these little hot spots are hot enough to start a fire.
Do they always pop up in the forest, or should I check my back yard?

 

Most of CA is nowhere near Yellowstone

One reason that's not being brought up a lot here is the Mediterranean climate of CA. The Dry season is the summer and fires are a known part of the ecosystem under that regimen.

I'd read somewhere that one problem here is that people wanted to put the fires out too soon, they weren't allowing it to burn off the brush and undergrowth, and then really big fires would start, but I'd heard that was stopped some years ago.

And yes, I am very aware that means Trump may be r-r-r...correct, (but only in a small way and not for the reasons he thought)

 

Well 65% of it is Federal land. Why doesn't Trump take care of it?

 

I think the black dots on the satellite photo are actual fires, and to show up they have to be large. The red areas during the last fires were very large, probably over a hundred miles wide and they appeared on the satellite photos the day before the fire started. All were located in volcanic fields.

As for checking your back yard, well that depends. If you're on a volcano and it starts getting hot, then I'd worry.

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You all are forgetting that controlled burns to eliminate the fuel for fires was banned in California and elsewhere to "save" the environment from "climate change". Now you are living with the folly of that decision. The burning is happening anyway. Live with it.

 

The federal government controls more than half of the forest in California, and the U.S. thinned, cut, burned and mulched about 235,000 acres there in the year that ended Oct. 1, according to Barnie Gyant, the U.S. Forest Service’s deputy regional forester for California and the Pacific.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-president-managing-its-federal-lands-n942581

 

Send the bill to the Siera Club & all the political entities / politicians that have buried their heads in the sand for sooo sooo many years; ignoring the fact that, not cutting out the dead dry trees & undergrowth, isn't inline with conservationism OR environmentalism ... I loved CA but not what it has become, I can barely go back there without reminiscing about the 'old days' & I'm a Millennial... Can't imagine the emotions some of you older folks have on the matter...

(Lake Arrowhead region used to be my - get away from it all, day trip destination)

 

I have news for you, Dutchsinse has been right in predicting earthquakes and the size of the earthquakes 98% of the time. So why are you saying that?

Didn't you just say that the fires are started by lighting? How can you have lighting without rain? You make no sense.

 

I think he needs more dots.

 

The earliest inhabitants passed on the knowledge to cattle ranchers how to tend the forest. Anytime you see a pile of dead brush....set it on fire. In hindsight, our prisoners should be given the job of cutting and thinning deadwood from our forests and collecting it in spaced piles. In the wet season it must be burned. Lightening caused fires need not always be suppressed. When brush has been cleaned up, grass should be burned off every few years.
Kalifornia had a drought that ended in 2017. Nothing has ever been done with the deadwood. It was allowed to accumulate because politicians see themselves wiser than foresters. Save the spotted owl! Democrats blame it all on Trump and climate change. Around 1890's I understand Arizona went without a drop of rain for 500+ days. Was that climate change?

 

There are pictures all over the internet where backfires are being set to control wildfire in California.

You should check your sources.

 

Your characterization of unrest in specific cities is just plain ridiculous.

And, that is NOT where fires are burning. Fires are burning in public and private forest land.

 

The question about your guy has to do with fire prediction and his ideas on magma being a source of fire.

And, you need to look up "dry lightning".

Besides, even if there WERE rain, there is no reason to believe that the rain would be enough to prevent fire, especially when long spells of heat and no rain leave these states with incredibly dry land and inordinate amounts of dead plant material.

And, lightning fires happen even when there IS rain.

 

California is dry, has been for quite some time. I don't think those deserts formed overnight

 

Michael Savage was opining on this last Friday... Something about the origins of nomenclature for California... Caliente (hot) / Fornia (furnace)... I don't speak a lick of 'Spanglish' (took German in HS) so y'all might have to decipher between the lines to ascertain if Michael Savage was just blowing 'hot air' up our arses, lol...

 

Helicopters dont do ****all in wildfires. They're a bandaid when we cant get bulldozers and folks with chainsaws and 'mcleods' (fancy name for a rake) in to do real work.

And most of that work is best done before the forest catches fire. But we dont do it anymore cuz 'the environment.' (Translated from lefty speak- we don't do it anymore cuz leftist states spent all their money on illegals and welfare and wait til everythings burning so they can get emergency Fedmoney to deal with their burning wildlands).

 

Makes sense to me.

But seriously, can someone explain how carbon emissions are going to redirect rainwater specifically Into one relatively small geographical area.

 

California should use a highway system around areas to contain fires. The highways can be used for automated transport trucks to transport goods across the state. Unmanned truck don't need to be close to cities so they would be perfect for these highways that dual as a fire wall.

 

I think that paramount is addressing the issue of "environmentalists" / land owners with a 'controlled fire burn' & getting a grasp on current infrastructure & roadways...!

 

The man makes a persuasive case.