She’s 13, and the source of a family’s COVID-19 outbreak

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  1. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

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    Lame...but ya hadda say something
     
  2. MJ Davies

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    I know a woman who let her caregiver go because she was so afraid of catching COVID19. Instead, she planned to have her two daughters take turns to provide her with the extra support. Her caregiver has THREE clients (including her, so two others. Those two clients live alone and do not have visitors).

    Here's the strangest part. Daughter 1 works in a nursing home and Daughter 2 owns a local restaurant chain with two locations. Both daughters have spouses who work and children going to school every day. In short, she is exposed to MORE risk by letting her caregiver go.
     
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    No I don’t have to say anything. I do it as a public service. If my posts were lame you would be able to use facts and logic to show my errors. This is a forum where we are supposed to present reasoned arguments. Calling an argument lame without intellectually addressing the argument is an informal fallacy. You can do better.
     
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    It's very contagious. I had six family members get it very quickly while visiting family. Not sure the story is that important...it doesnt take kids to pass it on...
     
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    Heres hoping my 19yo spreads it to me so I can finally get my covidcation.
     
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    What does that have to do with the fact that kids can and do pass the virus around
     
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    Everybody and anybody passes it around.
     
  8. Lesh

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    Yup.

    And Trump's claims to the opposite were bullshit
     
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    I think you are hearing things...that arent true.
     
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    What was his "They're basically immune" comment about?
     
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    Gatewood:

    I have read many, many of your posts; "liked" quite a few. I tend to agree with you on many issues. That said I have a question.

    Would there be a point where you would feel something significant should be done? Yes, life comes with risk. Yes, we all die. But what if this Covid crap were killing people at ten times the rate? What if at this point in the US were looking at 2 million plus dead instead of 200,000+, would you suggest doing anything different? What if the number of dead were 10 or 20 million? Where is the line drawn on forcing compliance?

    Anyway, I find your opinions interesting; even those I don't agree with. Though I would get your take on this.

    Rich
     
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    Were this virus what was first advertised to the world and to this nation as a true plague level event with massive body counts left behind then, yes, greater measures would be warranted. One could call this non-event -- as it stands -- good training for the future as whether due to a slip-up from some research facility or natural causes and the human population continually increasing, the Real Deal just may happen within the next fifty or so years. The major problem is that most safety precautions are really more for emotional reassurance than they are either practical or effective in nature.

    It's the definition of humanity itself to want -- to NEED -- to do something when faced with the overwhelming and the tragic, but sometimes Mother Nature is going to end up taking what she is determined to 'take' no matter how much we care, how much we virtue signal, how many freedoms we eliminated in the chimura name of 'safety' and the death toll grows huge, no matter what.
     
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    and, they all can donate plasma
     
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    again, the 10% guesstimate. Nobody knows for sure, or even a close guess
     
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    That's part of Trump communication on what research has found. They are less inclined to get it, when they do get it the symptoms arent as severe, and they get over it quickly.
     
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    You shouldn't worry about anecdotal evidence.
     
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    Nice explanation but that's not what he said
     
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    I doubt it is just guesswork and what you said above is only guesswork.

    I amswered someone who was wondering how many people in the world were infected. I answered that according to WHO 10% and gave him a link to where I got the information.

    Everyone seems to be saying it though.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ld-s-people-may-have-been-infected-with-virus

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/05/who...eople-may-have-been-infected-with-virus-.html

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...have-been-infected-with-covid19-a4563716.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-10-cent-deaths-covid-latest-who-b806299.html

    https://disrn.com/news/who-now-says-10-of-the-world-has-had-covid

    https://time.com/5896734/10-percent-world-infected-covid-19-who/

    and on and on
     
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    Slowly but steadily the herd immunity grows.....
     
  20. MJ Davies

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    Yep.

     
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    I am 100% certain that months ago I used the phrase "snot factory," on this board, when referring to schools. I pointed out months ago that I would carry around a soapy rag over my face around the house at first signs the school employee had the flu; I mentioned also I already had a jug of sanitizer for that reason. One of the first videos I saw was the one where the powder was put on the hands of a RugRat, and it got everywhere.

    I don't think anyone is overlooking kids at all. Maybe old farts forgot how dirty they used to get playing in the mud, and laughing at some girl with a snot bubble.
     
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    Here is what Trump actually said



    Trump was clearly referencing the disease (COVID-19) not the virus (SARS-coV-2).

    One can be infected with the virus but not ever get the disease, as with HIV and Aids.
     
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    Trump doesn't know what he is talking about. Someone who had developed Immunity to a disease can still be contagious while the body's immunity system is attacking the pathogen.
     
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    Well that's what I got out of it. I remember listening to that press conference and he said more then the three words you are quoting.
     
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    Trump never said they were not contagious, that was the strawman created by the media. CNN doesn't know what they are talking about, they don't know the difference between the disease and the virus.
     

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