Can hate win an election?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That it was about European vs "Brown." And there is no evidence that the "new waves" assimilated any less well than previous waves. Much the opposite, in fact. But we get it, your real admitted problem is too much brown skin in urban areas. You've literally said as much.
     
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    Your neighborhood you grew up
    In wasn’t flooded with refugees.. there is overwhelming evidence many in these area’s for generations have struggled because of it..
     
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    That’s a misrepresentation, I’m talking about the immigration of cultures that can’t assimilate..
    unless you have a reason that American families have struggled in these areas after the 60’s ..
     
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    No, there isn't. You have anecdotes, not evidence.
     
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    Let me ask you a question.. how would your education have turned out if you went to schools divided by culture and language. Like 50% most that looked like you were told they are racist if they hung out with whites, all the girls of your culture were taken because if you fought for your culture you would be called a racist.. how would life be for you?
     
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    You were literally the one who brought up "brown skin," so don't go complaining now. And you have no evidence that immigration is "the reason that American families have struggled in the areas after the 60s." None. You've offered none. You've offered only anecdotes.
     
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    Really, have you seen Brooklyn queens? Boston’s south Boston? The familes are all gone destroyed, because of drugs, and other issues stemming from immigration.
     
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    Let's start with the concepts of cancel culture, where they take anyone who says something they don't like, and attack their livelihood.. From there, things like Maxine Waters standing at a mic telling the audience to hunt down Trump supporters everywhere, run them out, tell them they aren't wanted here- which is exactly what happened in the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington Virginia. The on to the dem run cities where mayors and councils side with rioters and call them peaceful protestors. They side and promote BLM, which then states that the massive looting in Chicago was not theft, but "Reparations". These people have made it dangerous for a person to wear a MAGA hat in public, which means they are deeply offended by the idea that we may be a great country. The MSM that feeds them the garbage they believe knocks the opposition is ugly ways everyday. Four years ago, Hillary called Trump supporters a basket of deplorables. Yesterday, Don Lemon, a well known CNN figure, compared them to drug addicts. With a little effort one could make a list of a hundred such things- all driven by the liberals and democrats. Most liberals lefties posting on this forum seethe with Trump hate, and start most posts with outright slander, choosing to de-humanize the subject rather than address any legitimate issue.

    "Sniveling?" Are you totally blind to what your own people are doing everyday? Or just to incredibly biased to care?
     
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    We were divided by language. I don't know what you mean by "divided by culture" except for culture cliques, which is self-imposed.

    I doubt that happened, unless you were ONLY hanging out with other whites, in which case either non-whites didn't make up a significant portion of your school to begin with or there likely was some racism going on.

    I'm not racist or sexist enough to claim that a women has been "taken" just because she chooses to date someone of another race. That's just a whole new level of fascist stupid.
     
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    Again, you keep blindly blaming these problems on immigration and producing no evidence of your claims. It all goes back to "Brown man next door said a phrase in Spanish, so now I have to do crack." The argument is dumber than a box of hair.
     
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    That’s all I need you have nothing to disprove me.. it’s a fact. Looks across the country,, I bet if you visited Baltimore all
    The corner stores will be owned by foreigners with there kids doing well while Americans struggle.. its overwhelming evidence.. go visit some time
     
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    I am
    The evidence I’m
    From a urban area.. why are you dismissing the source? Lol
     
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    There's nothing to "disprove" when you offer nothing be anecdotes to begin with. Unfortunately for you, I'm informed enough to know that employment isn't a zero-sum game. And I don't go running for the hills in a racist, ignorant panic just because there's a brown guy sliding my card the corner store.
     
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    And you know this from how many personal experiences?

    And do you deny that blacks live in urban areas & have under-funded schools at a proportionally-higher level than whites? Keeping them out of nicer, white areas was actually a goal encouraged by the government, through exercising its leverage over banks, in a practice known as Redlining. But you seem not to make any allowance for that in your assessments of them. To your own, disadvantaged background, however, you seem to give quite a bit of weight.
     
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    I always dismiss claims based purely on anecdotes, especially since you can't even defend the conclusions you draw from said anecdotes. As do all people vaguely educated in elementary logic and reasoning.
     
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    So let me ask you, would you take a job with ppl speaking 20 different languages? And also talking about you and your country behind your back?
     
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    Thank you for actually answering a question. :) Now that you're actually talking to me, I see that we're really not so far apart. I suspect that is probably true for most of the nation. They just need to have an open dialogue to recognize that.

    Anyway, our country has a long history of immigrants coming here from almost everywhere. There have been several episodes of migration in mass from select countries, like Irish in the 1840's, or Russians in the 1990s. It was common for those immigrants to start communities populated by their own kind, due to language or cultural comfort. It's also common in our history for Americans who've been here several generations to fail to appreciate the newcomers, & treat them with disrespect & bias. Our history is filled with such practices. Assimilation has never really been successful, if by that you mean merging the various groups into some common, cohesive one. We still have Chinatown in San Francisco. We still have black communities scattered in every major city across the country. We still have Jewish & Muslim communities that are distinct from their surrounding neighbors. I doubt that will ever change. But that fact doesn't really divide us, for we all share common values in human rights, equality under law, democratic principles, etc, that are distinctly American. This pattern just makes us more interesting as a nation. It's part of what Democrats call "diversity." And most Democrats, including myself, really like it. From our perspective, it's those out there who fear that diversity--who want every American to be just like them--& can't trust anyone different, who are causing our current state of division. We feel that division is both arbitrary & unnecessary. You say you support the end of our division. I, along with my Democrat compatriots agree with you.
     
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    I grew up in black
    Schools in Boston, they weren’t under funded.. Baltimore has pumped billions and kids can’t read a book, it’s not money ,, it’s having a assimilated community with strong families is what helps you with education
     
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    Jesus, I don't know how I missed this drivel before. I work with several people who were educated in black public schools. They can communicate. Your anecdote fails. I work side-by-side with them on research projects where we have to communicate our findings to MBAs from Ivy League colleges. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    That’s a very authoritative stance.. if you can’t win the argument just bow out
     
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    I sure as hell wouldn't work with a racist or xenophobe who talked about my co-workers behind their backs just because of where they were born, their native language, or the color of their skin.
     
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    There's nothing "authoritative" about recognizing the fact that anecdotes are not good evidence. I guess the one thing we can agree with is that our education system must be in pretty piss poor shape if you didn't learn that in grade school.
     
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    I have come
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    Many generations in a urban area where immigrants moved to,, Europeans assimilated, other cultures don’t,, it’s Suicide to keep it going
     
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    Names? Age? Schools?
     
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    The actual evidence says you are wrong. All you are doing is echoing the same ignorant hatred that was slung at your own ancestors and pretending that this is different.
     

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