LGBTQ and the Bible

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  1. Cosmo

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    Science does not support your “opinion”.
    An individual can modify their behavior, they can’t change their sexual orientation.
     
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    It's not the orientation or the person that's a sin it's the behavior.
     
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    The gay and transgender people I know have “lives”, not “lifestyles”.
     
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    I meant born homosexual but not in the lesbian sense of a lifestyle choice.
     
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    An inappropriate relationship is an attitude and habit.
     
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    Which is lust
     
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    Why do you disagree with my first reply of today on this post, which mentioned that consensual heterosexual relationships can also be a sin. All sex outside of heterosexual marriage is sin, gay or straight. Gay and straight is a reference to lust.
     
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    Why do you disagree with the first reply to this post that I mentioned to you today.
     
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    Because other people are not obligated to share your religious beliefs.
     
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    Do you think lesbianism and bisexuality have any genetic origins like gays and transgenders sometimes do.
     
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    No, sodomy is absolutely NOT exclusive to same sex couples. You clearly don't know the definition of sodomy.

    Marriage and fornication are unsanitary?

    Is that something you really want to stand behind??

    I'm not so sure you have the basics down well enough to project an opinion on this subject.
     
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    Do you believe that lesbianism and bisexuality is as genetic as homosexuality
     
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    There are noted theologians who have stated that this is more what the Bible was talking about.

    There are certainly locations in the Bible where lustful lifestyles are castigated.

    But,claims that the loving marriage relationship between two dedicated and mutually supportive individuals of the same sex is a "lustful lifestyle" can not be supported.
     
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    What the heck does THAT mean??

    Are you suggeting that the some sexual orientations are natural and others are not?

    As for genes, it's just not even slightly that simple. Genes just don't work that way. It's nicely simple to believe that each part of a body has genes that control that part, so ther eis some gene that controls all the aspects of one sex. But, that is just not how genes work.

    As it turns out, there are mechanisms that involve how genes are expressed.

    The fact is that the many very different aspects of human sexuality simply don't always get expressed in one of two specific total body wide patterns.

    And, while trauma during gestation might do damage, that is NOT what causes the variety we see. It's a built in aspect of how a person is assembled during gestation.
     
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    Something doesn't have to be genetic to be inborn.
     
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    It makes it a learned behavior
     
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    No it doesn't.
     
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    I'd have to think about that.
     
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    Why does your imaginary deity allow gay people to be born if he KNOWS beforehand that they will be "sinners" and condemned to eternal torture?

    Explain how that is NOT a sign of your imaginary deity being a sociopath?
     
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    Define "normal"!
     
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    It's not healthy behavior. Quoted from lavistachurchof Christ.

     
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    People are born with weaknesses, like homosexuality, because of original sin. It's the same reason marijuana exists in nature. It had a design and a purpose and when humanity sinned nature became corrupted.
     
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    EVERYONE, without any exceptions, are born ATHEISTS!
     
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    Homosexuality as it is understood today is simply never addressed in the Bible.
     
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    If you are referring to the emotional aspect I agree with you of course. But the Bible does does address the sexual act but it does so in terms that would also prohibit any sexual act that ends in ejaculation that is not intended for procreation. No oral sex, no anal,no condoms not even the rhythm methode. Jerking off not allowed and should you find yourself in a dream that could lead to a nocturnal emission better wake yourself up.

    The powers that be needed men fathering children as fast as possible. Between wars and slavery it was hard to keep rulers and the rich in adult males.
     
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