GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

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    You asked me a non-contributable question, then cried about a non-contributable answer.
     
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    Biden has condemned rioters. He hasn’t “allowed” them to do anything.
    Trump is the one who is attacking American values every day.
     
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    The economy didn’t take off. It continued on the same steady upward trend it had been on since 2010.
    I challenge you to find any major economic indicator whose trend line significantly changed for the better after trump took office.
     
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    You're just trolling. Good luck. Smart people will just ignore your BS. I'm done. Have fun.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    You're gonna care what Trumps says, heck Clinton wrote a book on it went on her world tour and made millions. And again there are Dems/leftist here and everywhere that still claim Bush43 was not the legitimate President so spare me the complaints about Trump executing his legal right to contest this election. As I have said calm down it will take it's course and it is, the official transition has begun.
     
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    It started turning around the more the Republicans took back Congress, the House in 2011 and the Senate in 2015 and went into overdrive especially for the lower income workers when Trump was elected. And Biden wants to return to those 2007-2010 policies on steroids.

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...ceptionally-long-decline-and-recent-recovery/
     
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    Veto it and have NO tax rates cuts.............don't be absurd. And the INCOME tax rates sunset on the top 1% they sunset on the corporate rate. The fact remains that the ONLY reason they sunset is because they couldn't get like 15 Dems to vote with them it was straight party line so did not meet the number need to make them permanent. But they can be renewed with a simple vote, they could even be made permanent now if the Dems would vote for it. But they won't so point your finger at them not Trump.
     
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    Protest cause by the left wing anarchist and race baiters in BLUE cities and a Pandemic crisis that the administration and the task force and the partnership with private industry and done a PHENOMINAL job over continually lowering the death rates and bringing highly effective therapeutics and vaccines in what will be looked at as one of the best managed mass mobilizations since WW2. Biden can count his blessings because he would still be holding meetings and claiming how much he cares, Trump took action and succeeded. And did you notice the DOW Jones closing about 30,000 today or did you miss that? My investments did FAR better in the three years of Trump.

    I'll take 2015, when the Republicans took back full control of the Congress, to now anytime over the 2007-2014 when Democrats had majority control even WITH the pandemic.
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  9. Pollycy

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    Well, Dairy, maybe a lot of you on the Left didn't pay any attention to national debt versus GDP, but believe me -- a lot of us with more sensitivity to real economics have watched it worsen, year by year. And, no, it's not a uniquely Republican or Democrat 'thing'.

    Still, look at whose 'watch' was in power when we went over that much-dreaded 'tipping-point' of 100... Comrade Obama's! Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke announced the $400 billion Operation Twist program in September 2011... and everthing went into the ditch in 2012, which is the same year we hit that 'tipping point' of 100. And NOW look at it... (no, Donald didn't 'fix' the problem, or even attempt to....)

    The United States recorded a government debt equivalent to 106.90 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2019. source: U.S. Bureau of Public Debt
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    We never, EVER should have had a "central bank" imposed on us, Dairy, and we can thank Woodrow Wilson and his "progressive" Democrats for the fact that this rotten, manipulating bastard-'bank' ever came to take over economic power in this country in the first place -- starting in 1913. Thanks, Woody!

    But, even Woodrow Wilson admitted -- later -- that it was the biggest mistake that he ever made in his life! Reflecting on the creation of the Federal Reserve System, Wilson wrote (emphasis mine):
    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

    Oh, but now, Joe Biden will put a past-Chairman of the Federal Reserve System in charge of the entire Treasury Department as its Secretary -- Janet Yellen!

    Nice start, Joe.... :roll:
     
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    Can you name one legit reason why anyone in their right mind would EVER vote democrat?
     
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    Because of more intelligence.
     
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    Explain to me what the Bunker Boy government had to do with the vaccine development ?
     
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    At least she had some looks, till she opened her mouth.

    Bunker Boy has no looks and still opens his mouth.
     
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    What do you smoke. Just let me know so I stay away from it.
     
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    Never heard them. Maybe they did. Got some quotes?
     
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    You are funny. You know the republicans are again the party of no.
    If the R's hold the Senate, they will never let Biden extend the tax cuts. Everyone on the world knows this.
     
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    Got some links to support your claims?
     
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    So, republicans were to incompetent to be around while envelopes were being opened.
    To incompetent to be around when the envelopes were arriving to be verified.

    I see no reason to keep such incompetence in power.
     
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    A new bull market to begin.
    Just like 10 yrs ago, when he and his boss started the longest bull run in USA history.
     
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    30000. All after 11/3. Biden's election.
     
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    Over $3T just this year. So far.

    The federal budget deficit hit $3.1 trillion in fiscal 2020–more than tripling the $984 billion deficit from fiscal 2019, the Congressional Budget Office estimated in a monthly budget review released Thursday afternoon.

    Even relative to the size of the economy, the deficit was the largest since 1945, the report notes, and marked the fifth consecutive year in which the deficit increased as a percentage of GDP.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonath...ears-shortfall-cbo-estimates/?sh=671ef16f49c7

    It will be 20 yrs before anyone racks up that much deficit in 1 yr
     
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    Thanks for proving my point. Things started to turn around about 2010. The trend line was generally upwards from 2012 to 2018 with no real change after trump was elected. If anything, the line flattened out somewhat.
    If you want to talk about the effect of Congress rather than the president, look at what happened after the Dems took control of the House. The line shoots up.

    Your nice little graph really proves that trump has not had the miraculous (or, frankly, any noticeable) impact on the economy. It was ticking along fine when he took over and the trend lines continued pretty much unchanged after that.
     
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    Don't believe it, Dairy! With an ex-Fed Chairman, Yellen, owning the Treasury Dept., and, with Democrats shoveling out welfare like manic stokers shoveling coal into a white-hot boiler, as they resume their neo-socialism fantasies with "Obama 2.0", anything's possible....

    Remember, this 'Covid-virus' thing hasn't occurred in a vacuum! It hit us on TOP of an already horribly overvalued stock market whose economic requirements were already compromising the entire system in September 2019 (remember the "Repo Crisis"...?) And now? In order to keep the whole thing from 'crashing and burning', the Federal Reserve combine has had to double-down and create trillions MORE imaginary dollars while buying more 'bonds' (?).... Hint: this pandemic revealed two things clearly: Americans had next to NO money in savings, and, were already living way beyond their means....

    Another hint: On today's newscasts, you'll see Americans sitting in their expensive, late-model cars, trucks, and SUV's in lines that are miles long, WAITING TO BE HANDED FREE FOOD!

    Last hint: Who says that all those 'lost' jobs are going to come back? :cynic:


    Bottom line? Now, everybody's 'betting the farm' that the vaccine(s) will be an instant-success -- and they'd better be, with no real problems, or the nascent Chinese-Russian economic and military alliance is going to take over as the new superpower even sooner than I have feared it will....
     
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