PA Court Rules 2020 Election Likely Unconstitutional

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  1. TCassa89

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    The Pennsylvania supreme court unanimously threw out lower court orders to halt the state from certifying the election results.
     
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    I don't you can prove that statement either.
     
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    WTF are you on about. They were told to separate those votes, and they did. That’s why they know exactly how many their are and that were NOT counted

    Now the current case that she was ruling on is the absentee ballots, and the legality of expanding that during covid. That may have some merit in Penn, but as of yesterday the Pennsylvania SC ruled that they petitioned to late, and that the election can be certified.

    Even if Trump won that case, they dont know if it would have mattered because there were also many Trump votes in the absentee ballots, and which ballots would be rejected based on the needs criteria of the law. I find it just so amazing that the right has been screaming ad-nauseam about “counting every legal a vote”, and then they spend every last breath trying to stop counting votes.
     
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    The USSC will not, and CANNOT take this case. STATES control their own election as the forefathers designed it, and the only way the United States Supreme Court could take it would be on the issue of states rights, but even that would not allow the SC the power to rule on the election.

    Your ready to go to Civil War over accusations that have absolutely no proof ever happened ? Trump is ranting and pouting and your really discussing civil war ?

    Bring the actual evidence, or stop posting rants and BS like that
     
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    Not being able to verify signatures, have lawful observers, and having votes counted with no one around in the middle of the night, having votes arrive before, the same day, or one day after they were mailed about (*over 100K of those) purposely set up by Democrats are not "trivial reasons".

    We now have an election process in the U.S.A. that is not:
    • Verifiable
    • Transparent
    • Legal (Not allowed to have observers - votes counted with post marks that were impossible - no signature match verification)

    Which means we are simply a Banana Republic thanks to Democrats. About half of our nation does not trust the voting process anymore, thanks to Democrats. It's dangerous.
     
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    Half the nation does not trust the voting process due to the lies, misinformation and exaggerations of Trump and those who accept them as is. So many have been debunked such as counting in the night with no one around, mass fraud in Phila/GA, more people voting then registered, more mail-in ballots received than sent out etc. So Trump et al make things up and then blame the other side for the problem - lol. Problem is someone declaring before the election that they could only lose it was rigged and now spending 4 weeks throwing out every conspiracy that they can think of to try to find one that holds water.
     
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    None of that is true.
     
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    That’s just not true HB

    In Pennsylvania the observers WERE in the room, The republican observers were standing right next to the democrats. The Trump campaign went to court to allow them to stand closer. They also, in their court filling, made no accusation of cheating. The case your referring to was one poll watcher in one precinct in Philly, that was the case referred to above. And we know this because their was a live video feed of those counting rooms with multiple cameras and camera angles.

    The ballots that “arrived late” were not counted. That’s just a fact. Those 10,000 ballots in question were NOT counted.

    The “votes counted in the middle of the night” is yet another (all due respect) BS argument. Some of the counters went home, and some of the poll watchers went home (from both sides). There WERE poll watchers form both sides in the rooms all night long, just not ALL of the poll watchers. You may want to read the actual petitions to the court to get the real story. But the Trump admin isn’t releasing those because they know it doesn’t support their talking points.

    As I have said on this board before, and will keep saying, is that what the Trump administration is doing here, and their zealot followers, is VERY dangerous for this country. They are forwarding talking points to their followers that have not basis on truth, and in most cases, no basis in reality, that are degrading the trust in the core tenant of our democracy, which it the free and fair election process.

    Common sense dictates that what they are saying has no merit, or even basis in fact. Every one of their court cases have been denied by the courts summarily because of a total lack of evidence. And most of those cases were by Trump appointed federal judges

    If you have some proof, and not just hearsay or made up republican talking points, post it here. Myself and most democrats will get in line behind you if their is proven cheating. But as of now its nothing but hot air that the courts have dismissed. The idea that every state that Trump didn’t win somehow cheated, is beyond ridiculous. It’s also very telling that they only claim cheating in states they didn’t win. And remember, back in 2016 Trump said before that election that their was cheating, even BEFORE the election, and he was curiously silent about that when he won right ? Stevie Wonder can see what’s going on with this one.
     
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    Just as the other half thought Trump illegitimate... It is what it is and it isn't going to be pretty...
     
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    The election is COMPLETELY over in Pennsylvania the vote counts are certified and signed of on by the governor. FINISHED.
     
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    All of that is true and links, videos, and evidence has been shared with you Leftists repeatedly, but you don't care, because Authoritarian Power and Control is all that matters to the Democrats anymore.
     
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    You mean it gets uglier than this? That's pretty durn ugly. Keep it to yourselves.
     
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    Leftist. Hilarious. Is that your argument? You fascists are a wild bunch.

    McWrong About Everything
    since 2011

    Millions and millions served, mindlessly and obediently.
     
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    How are we fascists? You don't even know us.

    Hillary called us DEPLORABLES, Biden called us Chumps and the left calls us Nazis and white supremacists and fascists. Why? Because you all can't stand people with differing opinions. The Democratic party is the party of hate.

    Trump got more minority votes than any other Republican since 1960 and he did that with the media, news, Democrats and the left constantly lying about us.

    The majority of the Republican party is Christian. We are nothing like fascists.

    The Democratic party is dying.

     
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    BOTH parties have about 4% fewer members than they did in the year 2000.
    Friggin' Hatfields and McCoys - worthless.

    Independents are up about 5%. Time to vote for candidates instead of moronic parties.
     
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    Hey I liked that tv mini series and I agree it would be nice to have a 4 party system or something more than just 2 parties.
     
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    Hatfields and McCoys is awesome! The only reason it didn’t get a theatrical release is because it’s almost 6 hours long.
     
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    I find very little value in tolerating differing opinions on thigs such as racism, sexism, tans/gay phobia, facism. corpratism, classism. Just to name a few.

    I am actively against these things.

    I am actively against ANY organization or person that supports these ideas, and have no respect what so ever for the opinions of people who express those beliefs.

    This is the boat I find myself in. I believe that Trump embodies all of those beliefs. Therefore, I cannot respect him, nor his opinion in any way on those topics. here is no such thing as "neutral ground" He, and people like him, and whom think like him, are the enemy. Period.

    How can I respect people who support someone who IMO, embodies all of the above beliefs? I just dont know how I can ever have any respect again for the Trump coalition of voters.
     
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    Trump is not a racist. You’ve been brainwashed into thinking that because that is what your Democrat masters told you to think. Before he ran for President, black politicians couldn’t get enough of Trump. Once he announced that he was running for President as a Republican in 2015, instant racist!

    51AE50EB-5245-4AED-AE14-350EF1DC771B.jpeg
     
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    Newsflash!

    YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief's 73,882,213 votes (47.18%) is SIX+ million LESS than Biden's 80,018,491 votes (51.10%) which means that Biden is considered to the LEGITIMATE President by MORE than half of this nation.
     
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    Wrong because you haven't provided any credible FACTOIDS to support your utterly BOGUS allegation above.
     
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    That Meme seems Laughably INACCURATE...

    Comical...

    WHEN Did Trump MEET With Maxine Waters?

    Do you have a picture?

    Or did you just insult the Intelligence of PF by posting an (unverified) Meme that you found on the internet?

    WHERE (in God's name) did you even find that INACCURATE Bullcrap Meme?

    And, when EXACTLY did he meet with Maxine Waters?

    Why are you posting Blatant Bullcrap?

    NOT a Good Look...:smh:

    Might be one of the worst examples of just posting "anything that you see on the internet" that I have ever seen in my almost 5 years at PF.

    Maxine Waters? :roflol: You have got to be kidding. :roflol:
     
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    ONUS remains on YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief to PROVE beyond reasonable doubt that it was NOT a fair election.

    He has LOST all but one of his BOGUS allegations in the courts because he has ZERO EVIDENCE,

    That is the REALITY that even GENUINE conservatives and Republicans UNDERSTAND!
     
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    Exactly.

    Burden of Proof

    From X, which is the assertion, is not yet disproved. Therefore, X.

    This is a Fallacy. If X is unproven, then it is unproven and remains unproven until reason and evidence is provided or secured to establish the proof or high probability of the claim being true..

    Examples:

    (1)Of course God exists. Has anyone ever proven otherwise?

    (2)Of course pink elephants inhabit Mars. We don't see them because they blend in. Can you prove otherwise?
     
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    That is NOT "evidence of fraud" that is "staring" you "right in the face" because you cannot even provide anything remotely credible that RIGHTWING appointed judges are willing to accept with one notable exception who just got her ass handed to her by the PA Supreme Court.
     
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