Kobach: Texas Case Challenges Election Directly at Supreme Court

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are PA legislators who are filing complaints indicating that they did not want the PA SC to act in the manner it did, and that their courts and execs did not follow the rules.

    So now we're getting to the nitty-gritty of due process to untangle the webs.
     
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    only when Liberal judges do it, right?
     
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    Agree , Exactly the same point I made in other posts.

    Still no proof that mail in voting wasn't secure.
     
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    Touché'
     
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    NO. The REPUBLICAN PA legislators want the PA supreme court to invalidate the vote of the people, which is NOT legislated anywhere. The PA legislature wants to force the governor to decertify the election because they claim that votes were submitted after 3 days. When in reality there were ballots submitted after 3 days, the only problem for the legislature is that they weren't actually counted, as they followed the law. THAT is why the SC rejected the plea,
     
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    if all the late votes in PA are tossed out, Biden still wins.

    so whats the point of all this?
     
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    Here are the major hurdles Texas has to leap over in order to have the SCOTUS agree with them.

    The Texas lawsuit calls on the Supreme Court to delay the electoral vote in the four targeted states, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, to allow investigations of voting issues to continue. That would be unconstitutional. Article II, Section 4, says that Congress can choose the day the electors meet to vote but that it also says the day "shall be the same throughout the United States." This year, it's Dec. 14, 2020.
    It would be unconstitutional to not allow 4 States in our Union to not have their electoral votes on the same day as the rest of the States.

    Texas also has no legal right to claim that officials elsewhere didn't follow the rules set by their own legislatures. The United States doesn't have a National election for President. It has a series of State elections, and one state has no legal standing to challenge how another state conducts its elections any more than Texas could challenge how Georgia elects its Senators.

    The only truth that is correct regarding this lawsuit is that the SCOTUS is where States have to go in order to sue other States. States must have permission from the SCOTUS in order to do so. But where this is not going to fly for Texas is that they have to show that the SCOTUS is the only place they can go to get a resolution. This lawsuit Texas brings forth is a compilation of legal claims that have already been resolved in lower Courts.
     
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    Good points.
     
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    If it's illegal on the state level, it's illegal on the Federal level as well. If Kentucky violated it's own state election laws then they should be included in on the Texas suit.
     
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    We don't have a National election for President. We have a series of State elections. Try again.
     
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    There is no problem. You don’t compare the signatures to the ballots. You compare the signatures to the registration records. You should have as many matching signatures on envelopes as you do mail-in ballots. If not, there’s a problem. It’s really not that difficult.
     
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    The voting was carried on illegally, would you prefer the voting in those states be tossed out without a revote? I doubt they would and would voluntarily vote over.
     
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    What you want is unconstitutional. Try again.
     
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    True, but their election affects voters countrywide. If they conducted their voting illegally, then they can't be counted.
     
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    Violating election laws and submitting the results nationally is also unconstitutional. Just relax and let the SCOTUS decide.
     
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    Wrong. Yours and Texas's complaints have been litigated in each of the 4 States that Texas is trying to sue. The Constitution clearly states that a suing State has no standing to ask the SCOTUS to allow them to sue another State unless their was no Judicial remedy in that State. All 4 States Texas is asking to sue already had litigation and a remedy in lower Courts.
     
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    Can I sue my tenant because he might not pay the rent next month?
     
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    I am very relaxed. The SCOTUS won't even hear this case. It's just a matter of time.
     
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    Thats not how the process is LEGISLATED to happen ;)
     
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    And yet, here, every day, folks who support Biden do this. Prove all the ballots were legal. That shouldn't take long if they were. Tic Tok....
     
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    If there are indications that your tenant was acting illegally and he refused to allow you to come inside and check. Would you believe him when he said don’t worry about it nothing illegal is happening?
     
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    Source
     
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    Wrong.......

    According to Article 3, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court can hear cases involving state versus state disputes without the cases passing through a lower court first.
     
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    Learn the law. The only date that matters is 20 Jan 2021, and if invoked the timeline in the 12th amendment. It's foolish to rely on what big media is telling you to say or write. Try harder.
     
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