Please explain this to me.

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Moriah, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Dont believe everything you read ESPECIALLY on wiki. It can lead to a distorted whitewashed [false] view of history.
     
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  2. Buri

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    More - don't agree with anyone who is saying there was slavery in Africa. Whoever saying there was a slavery in Africa is a RACIST! I think in the US we should remove from school books any mention of slavery in Africa. Lets demonstrate against this site:
    http://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibi.../introductionatlanticworld/slaverybeforetrade
    Look what kind of RACIST things they wrote:
    "Slavery before the Trans-Atlantic Trade"
    SLAVERY IN WEST AND CENTRAL AFRICA

    Slavery was prevalent in many West and Central African societies before and during the trans-Atlantic slave trade. When diverse African empires, small to medium-sized nations, or kinship groups came into conflict for various political and economic reasons, individuals from one African group regularly enslaved captives from another group because they viewed them as outsiders. The rulers of these slaveholding societies could then exert power over these captives as prisoners of war for labor needs, to expand their kinship group or nation, influence and disseminate spiritual beliefs, or potentially to trade for economic gain. Though shared African ethnic identities such as Yoruba or Mandinka may have been influential in this context, the concept of a unified black racial identity, or of individual freedoms and labor rights, were not yet meaningful.

    West and Central African elites and royalty from slaveholding societies even relied on their kinship group, ranging from family members to slaves, to secure and maintain their wealth and status. By controlling the rights of their kinship group, western and central African elites owned the products of their labor. In contrast, before the trans-Atlantic trade, western European elites focused on owning land as private property to secure their wealth. These elites held rights to the products produced on their land through various labor systems, rather than owning the laborers as chattel property. In contrast, land in rural western and central African regions (outside of densely populated or riverine areas) was often open to cultivation, rather than divided into individual landholdings, so controlling labor was a greater priority. The end result in both regional systems was that elites controlled the profits generated from products cultivated through laborers and land. The different emphasis on what or whom they owned to guarantee rights over these profits shaped the role of slavery in these regions before the trans-Atlantic trade.
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  4. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    youre referencing pows and crminals not slaves. There was no such things as chattel or race based slavery in africa. Only whites practiced those acts of brutality.
     
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    @Buri ..in your link it states it was maroons who were the captives of indians and some blacks. This is your example of blacks enslaving blacks is it not? Did you know that maroons are black hebrews? Have inot stated before that yes, african princes did take black hebrews captive on the Guinea Coast? Well it looks as though this practice carried on into the americas, likely at the behest of the ruling spanish conquistadors.
     
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    Absolutely! Blacks in Africa and in America never owned slaves, maximum they owned "pows and crminals not slaves".
    Esau, you should be a history teacher!
     
  8. Esau

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    Indeed. Maybe you think america should free all the criminals and allow al quaida to blow up the white house. You need to be monitored, closely.
     
  9. Buri

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    So let me get this straight, it’s only “slavery” to you if the reason the person was a slave is their race.
    Hilarious, what else ya got?
     
  10. Esau

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    Maybe you ignored the pow and criminal bits..figures.
     
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  11. Buri

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    No no, it’s just too funny watching you make up your own history. Do NOT stop.
     
  12. Esau

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    You have been brainwashed your whole life and dont even know it. You are in a serious state of denial. Its ok friend.
     
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    Thank you for attempting to redirect history to suit your trendy issues, I'm always happy to read a new conspiracy theory. Now, get a new tin foil hat and get on out there!
     
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    Trendy news huh? Ill take that as the ultimate compliment soul brother. Stay tooned.
     
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    Making everything racist is super trendy. Which waters down the term and concept, it’s appreciated.
     
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    Esau, you are such a kind and patient person. The way you explain things so clearly and concisely---I admire you.
     
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    He said there was no race based slavery in AFRICA. That kind of slavery was practiced in America.
     
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    I admire him too. He probably spent a lot of time in universities libraries ...and decided he knows better. Genius!
     
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    Welcome to our discussion Moriah - let me update you what Essau said:
    "There were no black slave owners in africa. You must be thinking of the coastal Guinea Princes who captured the black merchants in africa on request for the portuguese nobility to ship off in the trans atlantic so called trade. They were not slaves to the princes per se. They were captives who were then enslaved in the americas."

    I agree with him. All history books lie and Essau is telling the truth. He knows the best.

    He also said:
    "let me just correct one thing before anything is concluded, the slave owners in america were 99% white so that makes the slave owners white doesnt it."

    I agree with this claim to. If slave owners in America were 99% White, it makes the Black slave owners White.
    Essau is a GENIUS!
     
  20. Esau

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    Nope, just the majority of ppl i correspond with here since ispecifically target racists
     
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    there has been lots of statements you cannot refute and so play sarcasm, why not quote them all. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. Its ok to use it once or twice but every post, im sensing some sort attention deficiency.
     
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    Essau, you a genius, maybe even bigger than President Trump! I quoted yours posts and you are sensing "some sort attention deficiency". You must be as good as a doctor as you are a history professor.
    BTW, did you know that the best answer to ridicules claim is sarcasm?
     
  23. Buri

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    Exactly, everyone is racist. That guy, this guy, it's like everywhere YOU look there's evil racists! Thank you for your vigilant service exposing racism whenever your cape is firmly attached and the S is visible on your chest.
     
  24. Buri

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    I read that. I also read in this thing that's rarely referenced here called "history" which is vastly different than the fiction esau is promoting. Maybe he can do my tarot next!
     
  25. Esau

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    You should update your google translate. The way you butcher the english language doesnt bode well for your comprehension in future discourse as is evident here.
     
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