If you are right — with the stuff you post here (this thread alone you say people are not true Christians if they are liberal, attacking their faith, condemning others and speaking for God) — you should be terrified.
What is a “Christian lifestyle” without God outside of a mental illness turned into a cult? That you have turned what is supposed to be personal worship into a “lifestyle” is what is wrong with organized religion. You and your ilk have probably turned more people away from Christ that you have brought in — there are numerous verses for that punishment.
Now wait, there is probably a lot of truth to that statement you made, but you are wrong. There is nothing wrong with organized worship. There is something to be said for both. It's not healthy to only practice one's faith alone.
There is a difference, imo, in organized worship and organized religion. One is for personal belief and the other tries to force those beliefs onto others — often with skewed ideology that they have forced unto the religion itself. I disagree with your last statement
What did Trump do? He didn't instruct them to protest violently. In fact, the transcript of his speech shows he said "Peacefully" Protest. Now, if you think protesting is illegal then there is no help for your soul and asking Jesus anything is purely unhelpful for your soul. Try to remember also a few weeks ago when your Mob tried to break into the White House and did breach the interior. The Trump family had to be taken down into the White House bunker. Did you remember this? No. And, how about all the "Mobs" over the summer of non-peaceful protests after the death of George Floyd? Hundreds of injuries to police and citizens. Hundreds of business destroyed including Federal buildings in those 18 Democrat run cities. Dozens of people killed including several policepersons. Did you condemn yourself when that happened and is still continuing to happen as we speak? Now, there were hundreds of thousands of protestors that came to protest the stolen election by the tyrannical Democrats. There were a couple hundred that entered the Capitol Building (Notice the correct spelling, not Capital). Hundreds of thousands were peaceful and actually picked up all trash before they left. Something Democrat mobs never do.
Then you should follow your own directions. You are the one who tried to disparage David. I simply pointed out your ignorance. And, it wasn't me who wrote Romans. But, I agree with Paul and God totally.
There is no difference. People of like minds get together to worship their religious beliefs. Call it a religion or a church. They are there to worship the Lord together. They are there to learn together what that church teaches. And, as any organization or group of people, there are those who will try to force their beliefs on others but mostly will simply ask questions, answer them and let them make up their own minds. It's a small number that seeks to force others to believe as they do. But, Democrats are now in the hunt as Communists to force out speech, thought, religious belief of others. They are working to silence all conservative speech which includes religious belief in Jesus Christ or Jehovah for Jews. Muslims, they don't care. They are fascists too. While you are pointed at others, take the mote our of your own eye.
You seem to be lost in so many ways. Jesus didn't appoint Hitler. How could you say that if you don't believe in Christ? You are a very confused person. And, what U.S. soldiers died in vain stopping Hitler? He died and so did fascism in Germany because of our God believing soldiers. And, what does Trump and Obama have to do with this? I happen to believe it's good to obey the laws of the land if they are good laws. If they aren't, then resist them through peaceful protest and the proper ways of making change. Running around in pink vagina costumes, spending 4 years rioting and spewing lies and hatred isn't good for any country. But, you liberals did just that.
You are entitled to your own belief, I am entitled to mine. As for your praise of man made organizations... Matthew 6:1-34 ESV “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ...” Conservative speech is the antithesis to what Jesus preached, I mean look at who currently leads your party. Adultery, lying, theft, sloth, greed, envy, hate, manipulation, false worship, corruption... Truly reflective of what “Christians” stand for today. To your fun buzzwords that make zero sense in the context you used them in — seriously, do you understand the difference between communism and fascism? — Democrats and a growing percentage of the population would not be against those that claim religious affiliation had you (general, not specific) not decided to try and control public policy by creating unjust laws that favors your, and only your, chosen religious beliefs. I will fight beside you to protect the ability to worship whatever god or gods you choose, but when you move to forcing onto others then I will fight against you. (Figuratively of course) Many “Christians” — especially evangelicals — do not want religious freedom, they want religious control. They are a short step away from the people that flew planes into the WTC.
Biden = Adulterous (he has raped), lies when his lips move, stole the election, stole from the Ukraine and China, envies Trump's success, hates conservatives, manipulates by plagiarism and lies, worships false gods and is truly corrupt by accepting the Presidency when he knows he didn't win, guilty of racketeering with his son Hunter. That about sums up the leader(s) of your Democrat Party. To your fun buzzwords that make zero sense in the context you used them in — seriously, do you understand the difference between communism and fascism? — Democrats and a growing percentage of the population would not be against those that claim religious affiliation had you (general, not specific) not decided to try and control public policy by creating unjust laws that favors your, and only your, chosen religious beliefs. I will fight beside you to protect the ability to worship whatever god or gods you choose, but when you move to forcing onto others then I will fight against you. (Figuratively of course)[/QUOTE] Fascism is happening before our eyes. The silencing of conservative voices is rampant amongst Democrats today starting with Pelosi, Biden and Schumer. Then, the Democrat run big tech silencing Parler as an example of fascism at work. Democrats are pushing for all out socialism which can only be controlled with tyranny. The two together will spell out Communism. It's so funny to watch democrats in hollywood, tech world, banks and financial companies all attempting to show the new communist leaders how they support them. The joke will be when the communist leaders turn on them too. It always happens. Mob organizations always do. Many “Christians” — especially evangelicals — do not want religious freedom, they want religious control. They are a short step away from the people that flew planes into the WTC.[/QUOTE] Such nonsense. Which evangelicals don't want religious freedom? And, show us where they want religious control. In the 1800's this may have been true. But, that died out long ago. I'm Mormon and I feel no such attempts to control my beliefs the way you think. The only ones who want to fly planes into the WTC are the Communists in the Democrat Party. They are a few short steps away from causing civil war.
Aww, your deflection is cute but wholly inadequate Rape has nothing to do with adultery (and is actually endorsed by numerous passages in the Bible) Biden won. He will be your president in a week. The rest of what you posted has no foundational basis in reality I don’t belong to either party, they both are a blight on this nation. Try again. More buzzwords with no substance. Can you post the definition of socialism and show where any prominent Democrat is advocating for that system? Where do they want religious control you ask. It is everywhere from religious organizations being immediately exempt from tax — even if they do zero charitable works — all the way to giving themselves legal exemptions that all others are not allowed to have such as employment and housing protections. We can then dive deeper, most abortion laws are based on a flawed reading of religious passages, as are issues surrounding gay rights... Your god isn’t the only one and even if there is one the chance that your version is the correct one is infinitesimally small
<COMMENTS EDITED>Adultery is a sin as it states in the 10 Commandments and in the new testament. In fact, Jesus if you even look upon a married woman or are married and do so with lust you have already committed adultery. Biden lost but Democrats help steal the election. Not my President. Too stupid and to racist. Mr. Segregationist.
My words make complete sense to those who care about America. Marxist speech as Biden is doing is also an adulterer, liar, thief, lazy, family racketeering, false worship, corruption, segregationist, dementia, sniffs little girl's necks.
Ahh, the words of one who claims moral superiority. Refreshing and very revealing. Thank you for dissolving so quickly. You are a true example of what your cause looks like.
Even this thread about asking Jesus a question has turned into a shouting match between knee-jerk ideologues. With all the little, tell-tale mistakes in language, it is also obvious that a significant percent of participants are not native English speakers. And it is the same in almost every other thread. Jesus, what have we done to ourselves?!?
What in the *** does that have to do with anything? Are ideas only valid if spoken in perfect English??? Jesus...what has David Landbrecht done to himself
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I've completed twenty one online courses by near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai so far. He said that when he met Jesus during his 1992 brush with death............. he wanted Jesus to do all the talking...... he said that he explained everything to him in a way that was fairly easy to understand.... but also fascinating. I would highly recommend his courses if you have some extra time on your hands. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdV1qGdSOexX8Ca6cP2wo3A Dr. Zadai said that he made one comment after listening to Jesus...... "You are the most misunderstood person in all of history!"
God has a plan to improve the world. In fact His plan is to eventually fix the world and get rid of ALL pain and suffering. How so? Well , , , {1} God is the kind of Person that goes straight into the pain for the the benefit of others. He gave His one and only Son in order to eventually fix the world and that fix will be realized as human history gradually unfolds. Give it time. The human race has already made huge-enormous progress -- to observe that progress merely compare the year 1865 with the year 2021. {2} God is the kind of Person that leads from the front where the pain is located. He gave His one and only Son. They mocked Him, they insulted Him, they spit upon Him, they beat Him savagely, they forced a crown of thorns down upon His brow, they forced Him to carry His own cross up Calvary's hill, they drove nails through His hands and His feet and they nailed Him to a cross of wood. Men are misguided when some say that God stands by with folded arms and does nothing to help humanity -- to fix this broken world. {3} God is the kind of Person that always tells the truth, not only for His own glory, but also for the benefit of His creatures, He has told you how you can be a part of fixing the world -- how you can be a part of gradually making the world a better place. Step number one is to believe on His Son the Lord Jesus and pray this simple prayer from the heart: "Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior. In Your Name." Step number two is to spread the good news of John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes on Him should not perish but have eternal life." Step number three is to do all you can to help others. For example I regularly support about 10 Christian organizations that help people who are hurting -- one example is Samaritan's Purse -- a Christian International Relief Organization. I do my small part to help fix the world -- to make the world a better place. The motto of Samaritan's Purse is "Helping In Jesus' Name." Sign me up for that. I want to help. And I do. So can you. {4} By the way, God is the kind of Person that is willing to suffer MORE than His creatures in His effort to fix the world. God suffered greatly when He sacrificed His Son the Lord Jesus on the Cross. My view is that He suffered MORE than His creatures have ever suffered because He was Holy and perfect and with an intelligence that is off the charts. {5} God has designed His Human Race Project so that it will eventually be successful and so that eventually trillions times trillions of human beings will enjoy eternal happiness. God has never stood by with folded arms doing nothing while His creatures suffered, rather he has always been actively working to repair this broken world -- a world broken by the free will choices of His wayward creatures -- and God's plan to fix the world will succeed. Best. JAG PS Here is my message to atheists and to Secular Humanists: God loves you. He has a good plan for your life. But you have to make an effort. An effort to stop something destructive that many atheists hold dearly ---- you atheists often see God through the eyes of all the pain in this world and you refuse to see the fact and the reality that God is the kind of Person that goes straight into the pain for the benefit of His creatures whom He loves. The Father gave His Son with the goal to fix the world -- to eventually get rid of the pain in the world that you always focus upon. I have something for you atheists and Secular Humanists: Its a movie. My wife and I saw it for the first time last night. I thought about you Swensson and about some of the atheists here at PF. This film can reach your mind and heart. You're a seeker, Swensson. Give it a shot. The film is The Shack featuring Sam Worthington as Mack. Mack is a man identical to some of the atheists here at PF --he focuses only on the pain in the world and Mack blames God for it all. The Shack is based on the New York Times best seller novel The Shack. The shack could be your path to better and happier realities for some of the atheists and Secular Humanists here at PF. Best Regards. JAG
Well, you will notice that I didn't suggest the question "how can I be a part of fixing the world?", I asked (effectively) "what information could you give me that would most lead to fixing the world?". If someone gave an answer that wasn't persuasive (such as yours), then I will proceed to not fix the world in that way, and so, it was not the right answer to the question. Well, as soon as someone can provide a good justification for believing it, we'll be all over it. Until then, it goes in the same pile as any pleasant but unconvincing idea, like Nigerian princes wanting to give me money and snake-oil sellers curing my ailments.
Dont be so sure. Most holy books, inuding the bible go on and on about condemning the worshippers of other Gods far more than they do people who believe in none. Perhaps you will be in hell right alongside us if you chose the wrong God, and you may have an especially nasty punishment.