Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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  1. AlpinLuke

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    And I begin to suspect that Twitter is controlled by a pro-Iranian lobby ...
    [this was geopolitical satire ...].
     
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    There are nearly 80 million MAGA supporters who voted for Trump, how many think the same way but didn't vote? These are not inconsequential numbers and the all or nothing politics we see lately from both sides with no room to even listen, much less compromise, is like ignoring the train and crossing the bridge anyway.

    Our intelligence systems are notorious for missing major clues.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know there was a voter fraud commission just 2 years ago created by Trump. Trump disbanded his own Voter Fraud commission 2 years ago because they could find no substantive proof of fraud !
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont need to. He said they needed to “fight like hell”.

    You cannot dismiss thatTrump has been telling his voters that the election was stolen from them. He has told his supporters that it was stolen from them literally every day. THAT is part of the call to action.
     
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    IOW, you still can't find a single example of Trump calling for violence - not even from a LW source.
     
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    Her stated position was that Big Brother is "all tech" which is true. Big Bad Government and Big Bad Business have created "The Age of Surveillance". IOW, Big Brother is Watching. Officials and tycoons who claim otherwise are liars.

    “In addition, intelligence routinely resorts to lying, deception, plausible denial, and related arts to escape detection, or, on higher levels, responsibility. Hoover's right-hand man, Cartha DeLoach, thus falsely assured Attorney General Nicholas de B. Katzenbach that the bureau tapes of Martin Luther King, wiretaps which he had offered to play for a Newsweek reporter, were made by a Georgia police unit and not by the FBI. Director Hoover frustrated Attorney General Francis Biddle’s order in 1943 to terminate a detention list merely by changing its name. Richard Helms lied to a Senate committee about CIA involvement in the “de-stabilizing” the Allende regime in Chile as well as its role in attacking domestic dissidents. Director Hoover regularly understated in Congressional testimony the number of electronic surveillances maintained during the previous year by excluding figures relating to microphone surveillances and by shutting down some of the wiretap installations on the eve of his testimony, only to resume them later."
    The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980, p. 24,25.
     
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    That's weak. The term fight like hell does not indicate violence, it's a political war.
     
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    Did Trump say that? No.
    Anyone who did call for the hanging of Pence has committed a federal crime - any indictments?
    You know - like what happened to Madonna - right?

    "At the Women's March right after the Trump inauguration in 2017, Madonna told a throng of anti-Trump protesters that she dreamed of blowing up the White House — presumably with the president inside."
    JUST THE NEWS, Hollywood embraces political violence without repercussions
    Celebrities have spent the last four years doing just what they accuse the president of doing — inciting violence on, and off, social media — with almost no repercussions., By Christian Toto, January 11, 2021.
    https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/hollywood-hearts-violence
     
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    They clearly cannot find a single example of Trump calling for violence, and we know they have looked real hard.

    OTOH, the real fans of political violence are not hard to find.

    "Comic Kathy Griffin endured the most professional blowback after sharing an image of her holding a bloody Trump head high like an ISIS torture video. She lost gigs, gave a strained apology which she quickly walked back, and had the Secret Service come calling.

    Yet she remains on social media and recently shared that grisly image anew without consequences. She currently has 2.1 million Twitter followers.

    Her celebrity peers followed her lead, meeting little to no cultural or professional resistance as a result."
    JUST THE NEWS, Hollywood embraces political violence without repercussions
    Celebrities have spent the last four years doing just what they accuse the president of doing — inciting violence on, and off, social media — with almost no repercussions., By Christian Toto, January 11, 2021.
    https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/hollywood-hearts-violence
     
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    You and I both know that the rhetoric and lies being forwarded by Trump are inciting his base to action. The idea that they're not is just obfuscation and denial by the right. The fact that his supporters actually DID riot, kinda says it all.

    The idea that people are rioting because Bob in accounting told them to is just laughable....
     
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    Even if that were true it is irrelevant. Criticism of Pence is not a call to violence.
    In America criticism of politicians is always legal - the COTUS encourages it.
     
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    IOW, you admit that Trump never called for violence.
    It is still legal in America to criticize politicians.

    OTOH, it is not legal to call for the violent overthrow of the government, but that happens - a lot.

    "Snoop Dogg created "Lavender," a music video in which a Trump-like figure is shot. Johnny Depp hearkened back to President Lincoln's assassination at the hands of actor John Wilkes Boothe and wondered if it was time for another actor to take out another president."
    JUST THE NEWS, Hollywood embraces political violence without repercussions
    Celebrities have spent the last four years doing just what they accuse the president of doing — inciting violence on, and off, social media — with almost no repercussions., By Christian Toto, January 11, 2021.
    https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/hollywood-hearts-violence

    Any indictments?
     
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    It's much worse. Twitter is controlled by real "progressive" fascists located right here in America.
     
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    I'd like to read her position from her. Though I don't actually expect a response because I've never seen anything specific from her when I ask for clarification.
     
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    No, we don't both know that, actually neither of us do. Did he want huge demonstrations? Of course he did and he got them. The thing politicians, both sides, keep forgetting is that there are Americans that are not strangers to violence and some that use it in their negotiations. BLM, ANTIFA and various right wing groups. Now I'm not trying for some equivalence argument, just recognizing the facts of human nature. We can stand and scream at some people with impunity and some will just give us a fat lip. We have to keep that in mind.
     
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    Trump supporters are now being called terrorists. That tends to chill political discussion.
     
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    There is very little "Peace and Love" these days from what still calls itself a "progressive" movement.

    "Larry Wilmore, host of the short-lived "The Nightly Show," envisioned the president being snuffed out by a pillow on Comedy Central."
    JUST THE NEWS, Hollywood embraces political violence without repercussions
    Celebrities have spent the last four years doing just what they accuse the president of doing — inciting violence on, and off, social media — with almost no repercussions., By Christian Toto, January 11, 2021.
    https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/hollywood-hearts-violence
     
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    We keep hearing about the insurrection and nobody cares to look closer to see if that is actually what it was. Those people were not armed. Insurrections usually are but angry demonstrations only see peripheral violence by a few and lots of screaming by lots of angry people.
     
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    I'm just hoping that "what it was" was not the first step in violence leading up to the inauguration.

    If Trump cares about this country and cares about American lives, he will go on national TV and tell his people
    to stand down.

    I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    I worry about this country long after the inauguration, the anger is real regardless of what we may think has caused it. I believe it is deeply imbedded and is the same anger and frustration that gave us the TEA Party. Electing Biden and Harris only added fuel. This ain't right and it ain't us.
     
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    The sad thing was that the Tea Party wasn't far enough to the right for a good part of the MAGA crowd. And now a number of Republican law-makers
    are physically afraid for their lives from part of their own base. The number of death threats leveled at Pence and many Republican lawmakers from Trump supporters is incredibly sad.
     
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    I've been on Parler, they don't want dissenting voices ... many people gravitate to echo chambers for the insular comfort ... their posts are always applauded by the like-minded ...
     
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    Fake News. You have reduced yourself to arguing a counterfactual.

    Trump bans by Twitter, Facebook will trigger Big Tech giants’ ‘downfall,’ says ‘Social Dilemma’ star.
    The Swamp extends all the way to Silicon Valley, or maybe it’s the other way around.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/425455/
     
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