Biden plans legislation to offer legal status to 11 million immigrants

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  1. HTownMarine

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    Same thing that happened with homosexuals.

    Blacks have already been kicked to the curb after the BLM riots served their purpose.
     
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    LOL. Don't be surprised if you see a lot of pushback from within his own party. Dreamers are the low hanging fruit. It will be the others were he risks running his john boat aground.
     
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    The first one will bring the second one sooner or later.
     
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    Where ya movin' to??
     
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    Japan. They enforce immigration laws. Thats why their society is 99.9% Japanese. I'm sure they will greet me with open arms.
     
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    It’s a disgrace and insult to every Jew in the world. Relating our treatment of illegals to concentration camps? How dare you?
     
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    The poor and desperate vote for whoever hands them the most goodies.
     
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    Concentration camp: internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment, usually by executive decree or military order.
     
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    Because Biden decided..
    We will miss Trump.
     
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    Complete BS
     
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    The term came about before the turn of the C20th and was in wide useage by the end of the Boer war in 1902. Overwhelmingly the people who died in those camps were Latino & African. By all means argue that the description doesn't fit, but at least try to get the history correct.

    (yes folks, I know, history & right wingers are like oil & water, but maybe someone will notice)
     
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    As always the GOP never looks at the entire picture.. Soon as Mexico and other south American countries get wind of this, watch the run on the border.. There will be more illegals crossing the southern border then ever before ;)
     
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    But in this case, because they broke the law and came into the country without the proper authorization, by law, passed by congress.
     
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    Linguistic whack-a-mole.

    "We have to detain people somewhere when they illegally cross our country's border"
    "They're called concentration camps, by-definition"
    "Then we need concentration camps"
    "You're just like the Nazis"

    There is no point debating in these terms.
     
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    Because it chimes with the American tradition of millions of people arriving uninvited in the land.
    Without the additional genocide of north American aboriginals to go with it.
     
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    Trump did not finish building the wall ?
     
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    Use the misdeeds of elites from from the past to justify the misdeeds of elites of the present, nice tactic. It will stir up some nice racial hatred on all sides and inevitably lead to racial based violence which can then be used by elites to strip human rights/wealth from the plebes. What we should never notice and never talk about is about how everything the government does results in the further decline in the fortunes/rights of the middle and working classes and the increase in the fortune/power of the elite class.... that would be hate speech and should be outlawed.
     
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    The left is already working on losing the mid terms and the 2024 election. They are ensuring that Biden will be a one term president.
     
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    And considering that most fled countries where they were at the mercy of armed, violent gangs and/or armed, violent security forces of dictatorships, they might not be too keen on giving up their newfound right to possess the means to defend themselves. That's right, the 2nd Amendment, which the Democratic Party has decided to negate by any means necessary. The GOP, rather than continue bitchin' about Latino immigrants, needs to begin a concerted effort to bring them into the fold since many already hold the same social beliefs.
     
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    True but the law is you have to be here 5 years and 18 years old to qualify to apply for citizenship. My parents had to wait 5 years before they could apply. I had to wait until I turned 18. So if we are going to give them green cards lie candy then the date of issue of their Green card should be the first day of the 5 year wait until citizenship process can START. They need to go through ALL of the steps that my parents went through and I went through. The illegals as I said are in my opinion criminals so by granting them a path to citizenship we are for all practical purposes granting them PARDONS.

    You may think that I am taking this personnaly or as a means of revenge.
    No, I believe in fairness. I grew up here without even any clear memory of the refugee camp. I "think " I recall waiting in line to board the ship that took us to the America because I "think" I remember my parents making a big deal of telling me that was the ship that is taking us.

    Basically I grew up in the US thinking of myself as an American kid. It was not until my one and only one year of college in the ROTC program that I was told to get my citizenship or I could get a commission. So even though I dropped out and went into the USAF ( as enlisted) I needed the citizenship to get a Secret security clearance.

    DACA "kids" should be treated just as I was. They can get green cards BUT they still need to go through the naturalization process just like I did.
    And they need to pay their own fees for the citizenship process.

    Remember what Milton Friedman said "there ain't no free lunch". Now literally there is but in the 1950's when I was a kid my parents would rather starve then take "free" lunch. They had "free" lunch in the forced labor camps as prisoner of Nazis and "free ". lunch in the refugee camps. My dad worked worked as refugee camp security and my mom worked in the camp cafeteria for their "free" refugee camp lunch. And they were proud that they worked in camp. Others did not they sat around waiting for their free lunch just like a lot of illegals do I guess.

    My question to you ' do you believe that those illegals should be granted easy access to becoming a citizen and jump at warp speed ahead of people like me?
     
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    What good is a wall or even a military blockade going to do if the the U.S. President announces he is going to "
    prioritize legal status for millions of immigrants"?
     
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    It doesn’t when the term came out. When you mention concentration camps the Holocaust and Nazis is the first thing that comes to mind. And even though many different people were executed by the Nazis, Jews were the most affected.

    You’re being purposely combative attempting to shift the obvious insane reference. Trump neither kept anyone against their will nor murdered them at the border. Any individual that didn’t want to be detained could spin right back around and return home. You know that right.
     
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    Fallacy, straw man. We now have immigration laws. Like every other nation on Earth.
     
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