Did Obama jail any journalists?

Trump is a disgrace and embarrassment to this country, foreigners like you are free to disagree with me, but I will never understand it

 

Then focus on ACTUAL bad things that he has done, instead of desperately trying to accuse him
of mocking a reporter specifically for their disability, a claim which you have FAILED to defend under my intense scrutiny.

 

we are, you're defending it, no clue why

 

Trump was against Civil Liberties?

I can find no evidence of the US being charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity in Yemen. Are you sure you're correct?

Well Keystone was commissioned under Obama, and now his former Vice President has scrapped it. So did you mean to say that BIDEN'S policy is worse?

You mean Democrats are anti-ACLU?

What's the "neocon" reference?

 

So then why do you need to desperately try to accuse him of mocking a reporter specifically for their disability?

 

why do you need to constantly defend Trump and his actions?

I can't see anything that would motivate me to go to another countries political websites daily and defend or attack their people, can you explain your motivations? help me understand?

 

First, just admit defeat on your desperate claim that Trump mocked a reporter specifically for their disability. You've ALL but admitted defeat, DODGING all of my challenges in the past 30 minutes!

 

will do no such thing as Trump did just that, not sure why you keep defending him

 

If you think that he did just that, then you should have no problem explaining how you know that he "used" the reporters disabilities?

 

we lived it, there is video, you can deny the truth all you want, not sure why you would do that though

 

1) Trump was not a big promoter of Civil Liberties - never Pardoned Snowden .. and never did anything about Assange languishing in Prison .. Trump was a big "Law and Order" promoter = Give Cops/Gov't more power, did nothing on Pot, and so on.

It is not that Trump hated CL - but he did not do much to promote them -- didn't go after the Patriot "Freedom Act" - Domestic Surveillance - did nothing for Whistleblowers.

So Trump mostly maintained the Status Quo .. and was a little pro-active against CL in a few areas .. Abortion for example.

2) No Evidence - War Crimes - Yemen --- Took me 2 seconds to pull up numerous headlines from NY-Times (paywall) Wapo (paywall) - here is one with No paywall mentions NYT reporting.
American Officials on the Hook for War Crimes in Yemen
According to the New York Times, concerns are now rising among US officials that they could be held accountable for war crimes in Yemen due to their role in facilitating arms sales to Saudi Arabia and its allies .https://www.insideover.com/war/american-officials-on-the-hook-for-war-crimes-in-yemen.html

Talks about the ICC Later on ... Dirty Deeds .. Just wait until they get to Syria .. that Pandora's box has yet to be opened. . but you have to think at some point they will get to it.

Dems are Anti ACLU -- while Trump was not Great .. Obama was much worse .. and Blue today is worse even yet.
Neocon = a supporter and lover of War. - warmonger

 

What does abortion have to do with Civil Liberties?

I thought you were saying that the US was charged, not officials.

How are the dems anti-ACLU? It seems that the ACLU ITSELF is not exactly the liberty defending organisation that it once was.

What does this have to do with "demonizing Tulsi Gabbard?"

 

And I already showed you that he did the same thing in mocking other people!

 

because he tries to find the weakness in people, what will hurt them, he saw this reporters disability as a weakness and used it in his attack on him, that is what bullies do, bullies always have their defenders though

 

Again, I already showed you that he did the same thing in mocking other people! So how can it be about disability?

 

1) painful -- you need to figure out what essential liberty is
2) more painful - read the article - and US officials same thing .. head splitting painful.
3) Thought I covered this - did we not discuss free speech - whistle blowers and so on - add NSA to the list.
4) Tulsi is Anti -War - Blue demonized her for this position - They didn't like the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act"

 

Essential liberties have nothing to do with being able to have a doctor interfere with your body.

I find it fascinating how someone like Gabbard has more in common with Alex Jones on an issue than the rest of her party!

 

Essential liberty has much to do with someone forcing you to do something you don't want to do - I get that one can disagree on the value of this Liberty - (right not to have your body violated) - but not that you do not understand that this is an issue of Civil Liberty.

Gabbard - as I said .. Blue is now the new Neocon - pro war - and all that good stuff.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...any-journalists.584340/page-5#post-1072411707

 

Might war mongering be the only thing which the majority of Democrats and Republicans have in common?

 

There is a fundamental difference between Obama and Trump on the matter of the media. In Risen's case, and all the other times the Obama admin went after reporters I'm aware of, the motivating principle was the defense of the nation. That is, trying to keep matters of national security a secret. And when those secrets were revealed by reporters, trying to force them to reveal their sources.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/form...eaking-classified-information-and-obstruction

In contrast, Trump's motivating principle was to disparage the media for being critical of him. He sought to, and with a certain part of the population succeeded, make the media appear less credible when reporting on his incompetence, corruption, his illegal acts and his immorality.

Fair minded people can disagree over whether Obama's efforts to protect the country were appropriate. IMO, it is much more difficult to defend Trump's self-serving attacks on the media as his interest was for himself........as it always is in all things.

 

And how was the media's reporting on Obama? Totally fair?

So rhetoric is worse than action?

 

Obviously. How many people have a permanent distrust of the media because of Trump's rhetoric (lies) about it? Erosion of trust in accurate reporting does grave harm to our democracy.

 

How many people have a permanent distrust of the media because they are fake news and a DCP propaganda machine? Erosion of trust in accurate reporting does grave harm to our REPUBLIC.

 

No actually -- but very good question.

Most folks look for the devil in the areas of disagreement ... but this is not where the Devil is normally to be found found my friend - Abortion - Gay Marriage - "The Wall"

If you want to know who pulls the strings in Congress .. look not to these "Hot Button Issues" - The Establishment international financiers care not about such things ..

Things that effect "Business - Wealth " Tax Law - Regulations - Law .. this is where the devil is found.. and look to areas of "Agreement" not "Disagreement"

The "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" is a good example. Gabbard had 13 Bipartisan in Congress as co- sponsors - but this bill failed in the house which has a total of House - 435 members.

When Senator Rand Paul introduced this bill to the Senate .. he had a total of Zero Co -Sponsors.

but this is Military War stuff .. and you asked for something else.

Look at Drug Price Fixing - or price fixing among the various Healthcare (HC) Oligopolies in general .. .. Sure you have lone voice from time to time calling out this practice - everyone says "LOOK LOOK - freedom of speech/expression - what a great system we have" That voice then gets quickly drowned out by the cacophony on the take .. and the Status Quo in our healthcare system is maintained.

3.5 Trillion was the Total Spend in 2017 - Federal Revenue was 3.6 Trillion by comparison

All other First world nations have Universal HC - US is middle of the road in terms of care - these other nations doing it for half the cost.




The Status Quo is maintained .. and the folks who own the Military Industrial Complex are the same one's who own/Control the HC Oligopolies - Energy - Banking - .. same club .. owning board of director shares in near all of the Fortune 100 .. 3 "Massive" Hedge funds that the Media doesn't talk about .. because these folks own the Media as well.

So lets have a look at the top hedge fund - by value - in the US - or at least listed as #1 by Investopedia.

1. Bridgewater Associates

Reading further - as of April 30, 2020, the fund had $138 billion under management

Notice as well that that kind of money 100 Billion - near the top of the Top 10 Richest people in the world. - you can google that one for yourself - or just take my well researched word for it.

So this is some Serious Money right ? - 100 Billion is more money than God - no individual needs this much -

at 5% interest - one has 5 Billion a year to spend without touching the principle. Divide by 50 - rough number of weeks in a year .. and this poor soul somehow has to manage to survive on 100 Million a Week .. and need never touch the principle .. Surely this is "Too Much Money" IMHO.

but my Australian Friend - the story ends not here ... it does not end with Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and the KOCH Bro's - albeit with that much money one can exert considerable influence in our "Pay to Play" system. The Party is just starting.

We will now go to Wiki - and if you go to top 10 hedge funds - and top 10 richest people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World's_Billionaires#2020 - Jeff Bazos is currently at the top with 113 Billion.

I want you to click on another Wiki link - or not because I am going to post from it to save you the trouble. ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Street_Corporation

What ? - this hedge fund is way bigger than "Bridgewater" - Why isn't it mentioned .. this hedge fund is 30 times the size of what we are told is numero - uno ...

Who's money is this - you could have 30 people worth 100 Billion with that much. .. inquiring minds want to know.

The story continues though - if you look up Mellon and JP Morgan - you find roughtly the same amount under Management around 3 Trillion
So we are now at roughly 9 Trillion 90 people with 100 Billion Each .... folks who did not make the list.

90 x 100 Billionaires out there who's names we have never hear in conjunction with having great wealth - don't appear on any of the lists..

Now that is a heck of alot of influence - in our pay to play system don't you think ? and in our stock market... these three at the top of the insider lists of near all of the Fortune 100 companies. - seats on the Board of directors . who tells the CEO what to do - and the Chief Editor if we are talking a New's Corp

So there you have it .. Story finished right ? ... Hope you have not clicked on the link yet .. as there is one surprise left. as the above sentence ends with

" 3.1 Trillion under management and US$36.64 trillion under custody and administration. "

and again you can times this by 3 = over 100 Trillion

So how much is that Chris ? 100 Trillion .. say it to yourself - because this is "All the Money in the World" pretty much.

And who owns this wealth in these 3 Old US banks --- well .. it is not individuals per say but rather "Families" - and you have families out there with 5 Trillion dollars in net worth .. the equivalent of having 50 - 100 Billionaires in the Family..

Each having to figure out how to spend 100 Million a week - without touching the principle.

Now you that have found the Devil - you also realize how truly massive and invincible this Devil really is - in our Pay to Play system..

Step aside Koch Bros, George Soros - Vlad Putin .. there are single families with the equivalent of 100 of these folks .. and you would need 20 families like this @ 5 Trillion each to equal 100 Trillion dollars.