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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Jun 27, 2020.

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%

  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%

  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%

  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%

  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Actually BLM was founded off an incident where the cop was attacked and fully justified in shooting the thug. Ferguson.

    Of course black on black violence is ignored because they only want to blame whitey. The fact that black abortions are almost 3X their population numbers is also of no concern.

    A well rounded organization that was concerned about all of these things would be worthy of supporting. Such an organization will never exist.
     
    Starcastle, Mar 16, 2021
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    Looting and arson are done by opportunist criminals, not BLM supporters,.

    You want me to argue that Republicans want to hang Mike Pence, Lynch Pelosi, destroy democracy and insurrect against the United States?

    See, on the conclusions you are drawing, using that standard, I can assert the above.

    Moreover,

    Black on black violence is not the point, that's the work of criminals.

    Police brutality is the point. So your comparison is specious.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 17, 2021
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    Actually it IS the point. If you're gonna make a claim like somebodies' life matters to everyone, you had better make sure you're not your own worst enemy.
     
    Buri, Mar 17, 2021
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    Black lies matter....
     
    it's just me, Mar 17, 2021
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    The issue is police brutality.

    Criminality is a separate issue.

    You are conflating the two
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 17, 2021
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    So does the Marxist thuggery they demonstrate. I live in an area where we don't see this kind of lawlessness. The question I most would like answered is simple. When someone asks me "do black lives matter?" I'd ask them, WHICH ONES?
     
    Esdraelon, Mar 17, 2021
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    Which thuggery?
    Is that similar to all trump supporters thuggery since they stormed the Capitol to over throw the election process?
     
    dairyair, Mar 17, 2021
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    There can be more than one issue. One is 5x more dangerous and is out of control. I'm 100% aware that how you react to the police determines how you're treated, and that explains a LOT.
     
    Buri, Mar 18, 2021
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    The name of the group is "black lives matter". Not black thugs killed by police. Stop trying to be Don Lemon's protégé.

     
    Starcastle, Mar 18, 2021
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    Police brutality is a label and is usually misapplied.
     
    Heartburn, Mar 18, 2021
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

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    Sure, there are a zillion issues, start a thread on them, but don't conflate another issue with police brutality and african americans desire to be recognized as a group who shouldn't be singled out for punishment by police just because they are black.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 18, 2021
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    I'm not in any way convinced law enforcement is causing all of these issues with black criminals. I'm of the opinion that the majority of issues between the police and black people are caused by their belligerent attitude and failure to adhere to lawful police orders.
     
    Buri, Mar 18, 2021
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    I have no idea what you are talking about
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 18, 2021
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    Are you black?

    Then how the **** would you know?

    I have a few black friends who, when stopped by a cop, become deathly afraid for their lives should they inadvertently make a wrong move, or say something the wrong way, it's like, they have to walk on eggshells, or risk getting shot.

    THAT is what black lives matter movement is about.
     
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    No I’m not. But when I was an LEO a lot of my colleagues were and at no time did I see any one abusing black people. Not once.
    It the rash of black criminals acting like nutbags to the cops and getting dealt with is pretty common.
     
    Buri, Mar 18, 2021
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    Most anyone will eventually become belligerent when harassed all the time.
     
    dairyair, Mar 18, 2021
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    Criminals are criminals.

    Criminality is not black or white.

    to say it is, is racist.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 19, 2021
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    So the problem is police going around finding upstanding, law abiding, clean and decent citizens to brutalise?

    It's weird .. but I was under the impression that police primarly deal with crime. Huh.
     
    crank, Mar 19, 2021
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    So odd that this 'punishment' doesn't seem to happen to dark skinned South Indians, and African migrants, and so on. Inexplicable!
     
    crank, Mar 19, 2021
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    Why aren't the police harrassing Indian and African migrants? Since you claim it's all about skin colour, you must have an explanation?
     
    crank, Mar 19, 2021
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    Look up 'straw man argument' on wikipedia.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 19, 2021
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    Yes, it's called racism, who woulda thunk
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Mar 19, 2021
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    9 out of 10
    okay maybe only 8 out of 10
    Black Persons Killed are
    killed by a Black person
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
    That is to say 80 - 90% of killed Black people are killed
    by 13% of the nation's population via color coded bean counters

    DO THE MATH!
    Black people overwhelmingly need to accept Black Lives Matter
    No White Guilt here!

    George Floyd was resisting when asked to show his right hand.
    Repeatedly!​
    Trayvon Martin was a thug.
    Michael Brown was a thug
    and their deification detracts from the cause of "racial equality"
    It feeds BLACK EXCEPTIONALISM = racism.

    The uber rich and their "congress" like such
    diversions while harvesting more and more of
    the :flagus: wealth.


    Moi :oldman:
    Just because I'm a conpiracist
    doesn't mean "it" isn't




    Trayvon-1a.jpg ​
     
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    Why are they being stopped by the cops? And why aren't Indians being stopped, if it's all about colour?
     
    crank, Mar 19, 2021
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    You'd best give me the precise parameters of this alleged 'racism', in that case. Is it skin darkness generally? Is it the particular shade of brown?
     
    crank, Mar 19, 2021
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