'Woke' college majors threatened under controversial Florida bill

https://www.foxnews.com/us/woke-college-majors-threatened-under-controversial-florida-bill

It's about time to create a disincentive to get degrees that don't lead to jobs. Too many over optimistic young people want to study what they like rather than what they need. Ultimately, we as a society are going to be on the hook for all these loans that add nothing to America's GNP, but destroys that person's future cash flow needed to have a life.

 

They must mean like feminist and minority group leaning majors. Somebody had to say it don't take it out on me.

 

It's a horribly privileged mindset, to deliberately make yourself a liability by studying something useless. Entitled, and utterly contemptuous of the working stiff tax payers who'll probably have to fund you for large portions of your life.

I regard these kids (and their enabling parents) as spoiled brats, of the worst kind.

 

So in effect the state is dictating their majors???? and are the students supposed to sign on to these dictated major loans???? iSN'T A BUSINESS DEGREE THE MOST POPULAR ??

 

It's not optimism, it's entitlement. They have to know exactly what they're doing.

If by some chance they don't know what they're doing, they have no business in adult society - much less a university.

 

Arts & Humanities. Almost all of which have a very low graduation employment rate.

 

No, it isn't dicatating anything. No one is going to be prevented from pursuing those courses. The state doesn't care if you spend the rest of your life studying feminist dance theory, it's just not going to ask the working stiff to fund it for you.

 

No one is dictating anything. They can still go for those degrees, they just have to use Federal, private or self mean to pay for it.

 

In my country, the Right Wing Govt mandated a doubling of fees for recreational courses, and a reduction in fees for vocational courses. It's a very good solution, since it doesn't prevent entitled kids from pursuing their sociology and poetry, but it significantly helps poorer kids access the previously expensive STEM courses which lead to stable employment.

A very morally sound and 'socialist' decision, for a Conservative Govt.

 

I see multiple sides to this.

The education process is beneficial to many. That's why people with degrees in one field can end up getting a job in a different field. The focus of the degree is important(to a degree haha), but the process of getting it is important too. If we are attaching purely monetary benchmarks to education it's going to end up just another battleground over political ideologies, with the side in power "cracking down" on the other side. I think it's stupid and petty.

But I also see the other side. Taxpayer loans in the form of financial aid should not just be rained down like mana from heaven. I do believe that education should be subsidized, and not just college/university, but trade schools as well. Taxpayer money should not be given out too freely and without regard to how it's used but it should also be a lot easier to afford going on to secondary education in the first place.

Perhaps a compromise could be a reduction in funding for certain majors, unless it's a double major combined with something more "employable".

But, what metric determines what is "employable"? That needs to be determined as well.

 

This doesn’t seem like it be abused in the slightest. Politicians deciding where scholarship money goes... what could go wrong?

 

Well said. That's what I meant, better stated.

 

Most popular degrees are 1. Business&management, 2 Nursing 3 Psychology 4. Biology None of those sound too impractical.

 

It's not about money, it's about employment. Degrees which secure stable employment will differ with changing times and economies. Govts and universities need to reassess every few years, and adjust according to projections for employment demands.

If people just want some kind of record of commitment and attainment (which as you say, has value outside of the field studied) what are they doing in universities? They should just go to their local vocational college and do whatever is most aligned to the field they DO expect to work in. It's absurd to spend three or four years studying a field - at great expense to either the individual or the tax payer - then apply for jobs in a completely different field.

 

Nursing is vocational. Technically psychology is also, but it rarely leads to jobs in the field.

 

It's a very socialist thing to do. I guess you prefer the capitalist model - every kid for themselves?

 

I've seen tons of people with supposedly "useless" liberal arts degrees land profitable careers with them, myself included. Application > theory.

 

If they go into UX, there's lots of high-paying opportunities for them in the private sector.

 

As Psychologists? Or as admin clerks and office managers?

 

So what in hell was the point of that three years? You could have just studied the field in which you were ultimately going to work.

 

Your chances of employment with an Arts and Humanities degree is much, much greater than with no degree.

 

And your chances of employment in a particular field are much, much greater if you study that field, rather than something completely different.

If you're prepared to spend four years studying, why in hell would you use that time and money to study something utterly irrelevant to the job you'll ultimately do? It can ONLY be for recreation purposes, obviously. In which case my argument stands.

 

As UX professionals. It's pretty lucrative.

 

I have no idea what that is.

 

Psychology or other fields can easily be related to said ultimate work. Again. See it every day.