Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

Of course.

 

Guns are fun to shoot, not all of them are bought for self defense.

 

I guess if the new generations want to serve the government that will be their choice. They'll have to kill an awful lot of us if they try it now!

 

ergo the weapons culture

 

There is also the various animal prey for food - a perfectly legit activity.

I'm well aware of that there are legitimate reasons for gun ownership.

The fun and uses of firearms does not form an argument against background checks. It is also not an argument against various other safety ideas. It's not an argument against licensing. It's not an argument against coferring on owners liability for the uses there guns get put to, such as when an owner allows use by family and friends or when failing to keep weapons secure. Etc.

And, it doesn't suggest that the rules for Manhattan Island have to be the same as those for Wyoming.

 

Anybody who thiks America is a socialist country is just plain ignorant of what the term "Socialism" actually means.

So, hey - we don't need a revolution!!

We DO need democracy, though. And, that is under very serious assault right now, obviously.

 

Mostly because our society is not saturated with pistons, pump actions and assault rifles.
If we had the same ratio as USA for guns I suppose we would own 30-35 million guns. As
it is we have almost none.

 

You know what we could do, whenever pro life activists decry the 'death of innocents' instead of supporting restrictions on the procedure, couldn't we just offer our thoughts and prayers and obstruct 'reform'? Its actually a good compromise.

 

A very interesting observation, particularly the speeding to prevent an accident. Like shooting someone dead to prevent him from taking your assigned parking space.

 

No offence to you but why do people say silly things like this or "removing guns is the first step to Communism" or "wearing socks with sandals is proof of a moron." Is this the way America thinks? Is quoting stupid the alternative to knowledge?

 

You've definitely given this some serious and earnest thought and I can tell you right now that you've got my vote.

 

Regardless of which of the three they chose? Since you say "an awful lot of us" I take it you are against implementing Democracy in the U.S. or at least improving it?

 

I know, but there are too many ignoramuses with their mouths open and their ears shut.

Democracy is under threat just about everywhere these days and I don't mean some namby-pamby detail of an obscure notion dreamt up by some hysterical feminist high on energy supplements. I mean really serious stuff like election fraud and openly lying about WMD's so to illegally invade a sovereign nation in order to take control of their oil production .... and get away with it scott free.

 

I don't think any of our rights vary from State to State or even city to city. Even in Wyoming the cowboys don't ride down Main at midnight shooting up the place and having a great o

l don't think any of our rights vary from State to State. As for background checks, maybe we should have to do the same check on people in order to vote? It's simple and takes minutes, we could do that and stop a lot of the back and forth between parties? Do a background check when you register to vote?

 

Men in United States are suppressed by the government, so they express themselves by shooting other peopole.

 

I am for Democracy and fair elections with integrity. Voting is only for citizens 18 and over with voter I.D. that is easily obtained. Every signature must be verified. Voting rules guaranteed by every state must be verified and certified 1 year before the election. Citizens only and no ballot harvesting. Those are easy requirements and the playing field is level for every citizen. We are a Republican Democracy with an Electoral College. Those are the rules. Major population centers will not dominate and rule their values over the rest of us. There are safeguards in our system that must be maintained.

 

Hmm.. Lots of back ground checks already. Since this is an activity you believe in, perhaps you'd support its use to ensure the veracity of voting. right?

 

Well....thoughts and prayers seems to be the only thing that folks can agree on

 

.....considering that voting rights are actively being targeted now.

Not sure folks appreciate their right to vote as much as their right to bear arms. ..given that the motivation to get out to vote is not at the same level as buying a weapon. But that is another topic ...

 

In the big picture, buying and maintaining a gun was intended to insure that we would always retain the right and option to vote.

 

No scandalous exceptions? It all sounds very nice. Better than nice. But I suspect that sheriff Arpaio would disagree with you. Does he know something that you don't?

 

All I know about the Sherriff is he recently lost his wife. I give him my condolences. Other than that.....it's immaterial as to his opinions now.

 

I'm just asking because "your way" sounds good but the sheriff and many, many others say it's not really true. Who should I believe?

 

I would never suggest making such requirements mandatory, but you have hit on a very salient point.

Our society has two characteristics that cause people to not understand consequences of firearm use. The first is controversial and often discussed—entertainment involving firearms without consequence—namely movies and video games.

The second is never discussed but more consequential in my opinion. Most of society is able to contract their killing out to people like me. One hundred years ago nearly every child at least saw a chicken get it’s neck wrung or head chopped off. Most kids saw multiple animals shot and killed—often animals they raised—either to eat or in euthanasia scenarios. Also, hunting for food was more common. Only psychopaths are unaffected by seeing or participating in actual taking of life with a firearm.

When a person has never seen so much as an animal they have emotional attachment to die from a gunshot wound they can not fully understand consequences of their actions. Add in normalizing of shooting things without any consequences through electronic entertainment and what we see today is not unexpected. This is even before you add in other factors we’ve already discussed like no respect for human life and other things like increases drug use (prescription and illicit) in the demographics committing these crimes.

Just like everything else, there are unintended consequences to societal choices. When we hire out killing, those hiring the killers are insulated from the negative experience and as a result more apt to kill indiscriminately in the long run.

 

Yes. It looks so "easy" and so much "fun" on video games ... and so "heroic" in Hollywood films. So why not try it?