Yacht clubs, golf courses, gated communities: Florida’s pop-up vaccine clinics raise ethical concern

Yet his state is ranked 39th in covid deaths per capita and he has the highest vaccination rate of seniors to date in the country.

 

No, he doesn't. He just makes up another claim as to why he can't answer your question. lol

Perfect example, see post #96

 

you are wrong in your numbers. As of 3 days ago, over 10 million jabs and over 4 million are now fully vaccinated (J+J single-shot or both shots of Moderna or Pfizer)

 

Nevertheless, I doubt he supports healthcare as a basic right.

 

Any walmart greeter or anybody living off their Social Security checks or ... just anybody who isn't rich enough to live in one of the privileged gated communities, and is not member of a yacht club; and who couldn't find an appointment because Desantis was giving priority to his donors.

Who that is makes absolutely no difference to my point. And if you decide to go down that strawman path, just be aware that I'm not wasting my time. Too many interesting discussions going on with people who don't feel they need to defend even the indefensible actions by Trump's minions.

So respond if you have something meaningful to contribute.

 

Sure it does. Look at all those conditions. You're taking about a very specific person.

Who is it?

Prove this person would have gotten thier vaccine faster in another state.

 

I stand corrected. Thank you

 

Exactly! "Show somebody who complained"? You think people are happy to spend hours looking on every vaccination site to try to land an appointment? The argument is too absurd to waste my time looking for specific references to somebody complaining.

So if that's all you got... thanks for playing.

 

It's funny to me that you've literally created a fictitious person to accuse me of going down a strawman path.

 

If healthcare was a basic right, it would have to be free. Not paid for by someone else.
Owning guns is a basic right, but that doesn't mean you get a free gun.
Freedom of speech is a basic right, but that doesn't mean you are free to make any claim you want without penalty
I don't know of any healthcare providers that can provide healthcare for free.

 

Your threads are mostly games to be played. I agree with that statement.
You provide links to claims you make all the time, but all of a sudden, looking for this specific reference is a waste of time?

I agree since they don't exist and you haven't been able to provide one since you started this thread 3 days ago. lol

As I stated several times, the only people out there pissing about this is leftist media. If Floridians were all as enraged as the media would have you believe they are, this would be given front page air time on every leftist media outlet.

Too bad you can't find any. lol

 

True. "Free healthcare," would have to be paid for by taxpayers for all of those who require it. More similar to police and fire protection than gun ownership. Actually, I don't believe the second amendment says anything about gun ownership, does it? It says there is a "right" to keep and bear arms. You MAY own that gun, or have borrowed it, or be purchasing it on installments, or have the State or an employer provide you with one in return for service.

 

Who is more likely to be spread out....rich seniors living in a gated community or poor seniors? Which do you think would logistically be easier to get to? If you're wanting to get at as many seniors as possible, in as little amount of time as possible, what do you think would be a better option? Have them all line up at the local CVS creating long lines or have the spread out ones line up at a CVS and go directly to concentrated areas that have seniors (which in turn actually makes those lines at CVS shorter, thereby making it to where those poorer seniors get attention faster)?

Seriously, the only problem that you're having is that this happens to involve older rich people that happen to donate to a Republican. That is your issue. You can't get past that in order to think logically.

 

And yet the Florida Governor is getting more of the vaccine out to more seniors than any other state. You know, the people that are at the most risk of dying due to covid?

 

OMG!!!! You mean politicians reward rich donors????? Say it aint so!!! This changes everything!!!!

Good thing those Democrats never engage in such behavior...... wow...stop the presses...

 

Poor, in my opinion. But that's irrelevant to my point.

But don't let that dissuade you from keeping the lame excuses coming. The more desperate they sound, the more solid my case becomes.

The one you sent about the poor deserving to die more than the rich, or something like that, is the one at the top of the worst list thus far. But... who knows... you might outdo yourself yet.

 

Doesn't surprise me. Florida has the the highest ratio of seniors to total population.

 

Since there is no such thing as free healthcare, it could never be a basic right. The only way it could become a basic right is if provided by the government to everyone.
Have you ever seen government provided healthcare? When governments decide how much they will pay Doctors, or who gets a surgery and who doesn't. It ain't pretty
I understand your desire to make sure everyone is taken care of and its a noble thought.

 

So, its best if you have them come to one location. AND go to concentrated areas with the vaccine. The idea is to get to every senior with the vaccine as soon as possible since they are the ones that are most likely to die from covid. The faster you get to all seniors, the much better off everyone will be.

Considering that I haven't said or implied anything like that I would ask that you retract that statement.

 

No problem...we need more "noble thoughts." Nothing is perfect...private or public...and most of the advanced democracies provide reasonably good universal health care.

 

it's interesting how republicans are now all flocking to get the vaccine - even Trump himself got it

 

No. It's best if they can come to one of many locations.

Did you have a point that has anything to do with this thread?

Sorry dude. But anybody can see that you did. If you want to retract your statement, fine. There is no shame in that. But that you said it.... you said it!

 

In secret. So as not to get his supporters to believe the "left wing lie" that the pandemic did not disappear a year ago "like a miracle", and that almost 600 thousand people have died.

 

And get em all exposed? You do know a vaccine will not do a bit of good until it has time to take effect right? Which can take up to two weeks in some cases? If they catch the real thing in between then the vaccine is useless. And then they have a high chance of dying. All because you wanted them to wait in line when there was a better option. And only because they're rich and you want them treated just like a poor person. But plain fact of the matter is that it's because the are rich that has allowed them to live in a community that primarily has seniors living there. Which in turn makes it easier and faster to get them the vaccines because they are all centralized in one area. Unlike poor people who are spread out.

It makes no sense increasing their risk of getting covid just to appease your feelings. It's far better and more humane to go to centralized locations to minimize risk.

I get what your issue is. You want everyone to be treated exactly the same regardless of any economic advantage/disadvantage. It's a noble goal. But simplistic and doesn't take in various factors that should be taken into account. Especially when it comes to viruses that can kill.

Been talking about the topic this whole time. If you only wanted input from people that will just parrot what you are saying then you should have posted this at Twitter or FB.

Then prove it. Show where I said that.[/QUOTE]

 

in the usa we are talking public health care insurance, would still have private health care

when insurers decide what health care you get it's not pretty