Christianity and Homosexuality

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    If you continue going further and further back, there will not be an infinite regression. You must eventually reach a First Cause (or an Uncaused Cause), which created that first effect. Something doesn't just come out of nothing all by itself. In other words, there had to be some casual agent that began the process and set our whole universe in motion.
     
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    Why is it that people just believe the theory without taking a look at the evidence to see where it leads? Why would scientists accept it so uncritically?
     
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    1. God has no laws any more. That's why the NT was written.
    2. If god has laws, I bet you violet the one about wearing clothing of mixed fabric. Which you've dodged in the past.
    3. What young kids do at a protest when they are mad or happy isn't reflective of society. Look at cities when Super bowl or World series winners happen.
     
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    So, where's your Hebrew text backing up your claim?

    What happened 2500 yrs ago, doesn't mean its the same today.

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    The Reform Movement
    The Reform Movement has called for civil same-sex marriage for many years. The Central Conference of American Rabbis (CCAR), the professional association of Reform rabbis, passed a resolution in 1996 opposing “governmental efforts to ban gay and lesbian marriage.” The Union of American Hebrew Congregations, the congregational arm of the Reform movement, followed suit in 1997, resolving to, “support secular efforts to promote legislation which would provide civil marriage equal opportunity for gay men and lesbians.”

    In a December 1996 statement commending the decision of the Circuit Court of Hawaii to recognize same-sex marriages, the Associate Director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism said: “The love that God calls us to, the love that binds two people together in a loving and devoted commitment, is accessible to all of God’s children. Gay and lesbian couples should have the legal right, as heterosexual couples do, to form such lasting partnerships.”
    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/same-sex-marriage/
     
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    Morality predates religion. It begins with biology, and specifically with the instincts we have evolved over eons to aid in our survival and reproduction.
     
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    so jesus paid himself off to not punish us?

    and if Jesus is God, then God's can't die, thus he faked his death
     
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    then the same applies to your God belief

    if energy could not of always existed, nether could your mythical God
     
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    This moral law that humans live by had to come from somewhere. But where? Mindless, random chance processes cannot explain the existence of a moral code.
     
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    According to the Law of Cause and Effect, it is irrefutable that everything that has a beginning has a cause, including the universe. The universe (an effect) cannot simply bring itself into being. It requires a cause that is outside itself.
     
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    which would apply to a God as well

    if a God would not need a beginning, either would energy

    energy created the universe, it creates many universes, there is much more energy outside our universe then in it
     
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    Chimpanzees are not monkeys, they are a member of the family hominidae (great apes), so are humans.

    We know the reason for the difference in chromosome number, how it happens in nature, and can trace it’s origins phylogenetically.

    Because we’ve sequenced the DNA of humans and several species of apes and compared those sequences, we can see direct evidence of a chromosome fusion event in humans. Specifically, human chromosome 2 contains remnants of a second centromere and vestigial telomeric repeats suggesting an end-to-end fusion to two ancestral chromosomes (orthologous to chromosomes 2A and 2B in chimpanzee). Compared to chimpanzee we also have 9 chromosome segment inversions. The fusion and inversions are rare events, but are observed to occur in nature with a certain frequency. The chromosome fusion event is believed to occur more than 300 thousand years ago; the change appears not only in modern humans, but also in neanderthal and Denisovan DNA.

    What is the scientific basis for assuming that similar DNA means a common ancestor?
    I answered that in a previous post.
    Homologous structures provide evidence for common ancestry while analogous structures show that similar selective pressures can produce similar adaptations (beneficial features). Similarities and differences among biological molecules (in the DNA sequence of genes) can be used to determine species' relatedness.
     
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    sure they can... evolution favors a species that lives long enough to reproduce
     
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    Nature declares the glory of God. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/Articles/search_for_god.htm

     
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    yes, your mythical book says the mythical story contained in this book is true... lol, that is not proof of anything

    Nature itself is plain evidence of energy changing with time and continuing to change with time even as we speak
     
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    It's more reasonable to conclude that similar design indicates a common, intelligent designer. An architect typically uses the same building materials for numerous buildings, and a car manufacturer commonly uses the same parts in various models. So if we have a common Designer, we would expect to find that a similar "blueprint" was used in many different creatures.
     
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    It takes more faith to believe that there is no God than to believe that there is a God.
     
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    You can not support anything in your post
     
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    Evolution is the most tested and supported theory in all of science lol
     
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    The Bible was written by over 40 authors has the same consistent theme about the holiness, love, and justice of God. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/Articles/search_for_god.htm

     
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    Changes of kinds are impossible.
     
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    Argument from incredulity fallacy.
     
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    Evolution has two main branches. One is microevolution, which involves minor variations within a species. We see evidence of this all the time, such as when bacteria becomes resistant to antibiotics. This is also called adaptation or natural selection. Microevolution is scientific because it observable and measurable.

    The other branch is macroevolution, which is the concept that successive small changes can, over time, gradually change one species to another. It involves not only minor variations but also the addition of completely new features and body types.
     
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    Everything, would include that thing you call god.
     
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    God is self existing.
     
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    Evolution is a natural process, no divine intervention required.
     
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