"Who Executed Ashli Babbitt?": GOP Lawmaker Grills Ex-Acting AG Over Response To January 6th

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    Oh please. Obama did nothing to stay in office beyond the election.

    Obama was a terrible president, but he did not attempt to destroy our system of elections or the peaceful transfer of power.
     
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    He should get one too
     
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    She wasn't at the Capitol for tea and crumpets on Jan. 6th, 2021.
     
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    A quick rephrase - a white woman who was part of a violent mob trying to smash their way through a door they had no right smashing their way through. All she had to do to stay alive was stay on the other side of the door.

    That context matters & it is something the Trumpers want to ignore. They just want to focus on poor Ashli who wouldn't hurt a fly and ignore that she was not only breaking the law, she was part of a mob that posed a genuine threat to the people on the other side of that door. The mob had already attacked & beaten LEOs. The people on the other side of the door had every reason to fear for their safety.

    You are right, however. Had she been black and posing zero threat the same people turning her into a hero would be turning themselves inside out to justify her shooting.

    Oh, and in answer to the OP, nobody 'murdered' Ashli Babbit.
     
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    $1.5 million? BLM/antifa ring that much up a day.
     
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    Or selling loose cigarettes, or walking down the street, or holding a mobile phone, or sitting in a car, or.....too many to list, if you are not white.
     
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    Are you redefining the meaning of peaceful? I thought it had recently included breaking through doors, taking what you want and lighting a fire on the way out.
     
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    The cop was not the only LEO to tell her to stop.




    It's the law.
    deadly force.jpg

    Convenient how you use the Floyd case when it serves a function for you.

    Spoken like a Trump supporter.
    What is your point?
    Spouses usually speak well of each other. Why is this relevant?

    That passion got her fired at one point.

    Man speaks about firing pool service after conversation with Ashli Babbitt


    Yes.
    Don't know what you're talking about here.
    That made me laugh. Now you proclaim to know what she thinking? Outrageous.
     
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    You are correct. She is being made into a martyr solely because of her skin color. It's pathetic.

    I just found this video clip and posted in another response. I don't know about you but I don't go on a 4-letter word rant about my political beliefs with customers. I would imagine most people that want to keep their jobs don't either.

    Man speaks about firing pool service after conversation with Ashli Babbitt

     
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    if we put our knee on someones neck for 10 min while bystanders say were killing him, that is handcuffed and has already been determined to be in distress, we would go to prison too
     
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    I don't recall anyone saying that Chauvin set out to murder Floyd that day. However, it is expected that a reasonable person would (or should) know that applying one's weight on someone's neck for several minutes has the potential of breaking the neck and/or causing asphyxiation.

    Remember that little kid, 6 years old, that got killed last week during road rage? I'm certain the shooter didn't set out to kill a kid that day. But, it happened. He's not any less responsible just because he didn't intend to kill a kid.
     
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    Not the Virgin Mary II, sainthood-nominee Ashli.
     
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    What is amazing is to read gun hating Democrats actually praise a cop for shooting a Republican.

    It is not because she was white. She did not deserve death for being in our public building.

    Oh and a person stopped being a customer of the pool service. Well that is not the topic but keep supporting gun deaths and letting us know you support gun deaths.
     
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    I want to know this. Why didn't you actually watch the film of what took place the day Floyd died?
    I would come down harder on the cop for shooting Floyd than for restraining a much larger man as was Floyd.
     
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    Are you kidding? The killer brought his gun to kill a human. He used his gun in traffic.

    Had Ashli taken in a gun and shot the cop, then cops had the right to kill her. She was not armed.
     
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    Who praised the cop for shooting her?
    That's exactly why you are harping on it.
    The point of the video is one man's opinion on how she was very outspoken about her political beliefs. That is very much on topic.
     
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    How do you know I didn't watch it and why is that any of your business?
     
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    These are the doors the cop shot to death the female aka Ashli Babbitt.

    Show them as barricaded. She was a long distance from the doors to the House of Representatives.
    I do my homework. I have personally been where she died.
    I do not want to read Democrats whining about gun deaths or deaths by cops when they approve this fatal shooting of an armed woman for one crime. She was in the Capitol where anybody is welcome.

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    1. You have no idea why he bought a gun.
    2. How does using a gun in traffic equate to the intent on killing a child?
    But, she was aggressive and disobedient.
     
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    Well since you now defend this killer, let me let you tell us why the killer brought his gun with him in his car?

    Personally I think he would be pleased he killed any person in that car.
     
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    1. I didn't defend any killers.
    2. You don't know why he bought (purchased) a gun unless you are claiming to know the man.
    3. You don't know that he would be pleased with killing any person unless you are claiming to know the man.
     
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    Who said that?
     
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    Disagree on this. It is her politics. The same people would be treating her as a martyr if she were a black or hispanic Trump supporter. In fact, they might be making even more of it. There is a different standard for no-whites killed by police, but in this case its all about the politics.

    That certainly provides futher evidence that she was a fanatic who didn't feel bound by normal rules of behaviour. Clearly she felt that extended to laws as well.
     
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    I can see that as being true. I am generally frustrated by the way people justify their bigotry. I believe a large percentage of posters here would recognize the names Jon Benet Ramsey and Natalie Holloway. I would bet almost none can name any black or brown person whose death has remained unsolved. Yes, people have the right to champion behind whatever causes they want. I'm just tired of hearing that racism and sexism don't exist because the people making those claims are the ones contributing to the problem.
    Yes, it does. Some posters have implied that her military police experience somehow speaks to her virtue. Personally, I believe that background should have caused her to think more carefully about her actions before taking them.
     
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    Hard to disagree with any of that. As I often say, if I wanted to convince a person of colour without strong political opinions to vote Democrat for life I would just let them see how conservative white people talk about them online. I'm not even talking about the hard core racists either. The assumption that non-whites are lesser is so deeply ingrained that is is normal to many, which partly explains their anger when they get called on it. They literally cannot see the problem.
     
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