China Has Published It's Invasion Plan To Take Taiwan

I don't think Japan or the US would intervene considering the outcome. As an example, the Russian people were furious that Putin didn't bomb the British destroyer. When asked, Putin said we could have, and it wouldn't have caused a world war because they know what the consequences would be.

As for me, the smart thing would be for Washington to try to use Taiwan's unification with China, to try to get it to loosen up some of its more stringent laws - as well as to keep some of our investments there intact.

 

pretty sure that was wrong. china invade into vietnam territory, it withdrawn cause it can't keep up its logistic supply line, but it burn/bomb every city/village while its withdraw. china did suffer quite abit casualty, but so does alot vietnamese. in the end i would said vietnam lose more compare to china, consider china was able to scorch earth all northern vietnam cities, before withdrawn. yet vietnam dont have the ability to counter attack into china.

 

I wouldn't worry too much as gassing. We now know that Russia continues to develop
chemical weapons - and even uses them on Russian dissidents.
And we know China has been developing bio-weapons.
And we suspect that Iraq trucked its WMD's to Syria.
And we know Syria uses Chlorine as a weapon - it comes in 20kg containers in Australia
and costs about $20.

All of this is 'illegal'
But what is 'illegal' ?? It's when you can get the lawyers onto your liberal democratic
government to stop something all your enemies are developing, and expect to use against
YOU one day.
So the sooner America gets back into the 'illegal' chemical warfare business, the better.

 

So I suppose Britain had 'investments' in Poland in 1939 and went to war to
protect these. Not sure how they saved those 'investments', but they did get
some good pilots and code breakers for their trouble.

If China in one swoop takes Taiwan and America declares war - I am not
sure how it expects to recover its 'investments.'
Certainly there's no record of America recovering its 'investments' when
it liberated Kuwait. Nor with Iraq. They didn't even score an oil contract.
Did America recover its 'investments' in Afghanistan?

It's interesting that every war wasn't out of some altruistic belief, or defense
of some values but 'investments.' We know it has 'investments' in China and
Russia - that's going to be interesting.

 

The French? Really? You sure about that.

 

You just need to stop posting about history. It is embarassing.

 

Start with the assumption that all Jenny's sources are questionable/anti-western propaganda and you will be right an overwhelming percentage of the time.

Not relevant to today. The Chinese Army of 1979 was a shambles in every respect, which is the main reason for the relatively high number of deaths. China still trashed a bunch of Vietnamese cities in what was essentially a giant raid. China knew there would be limits on what Russia would permit it to do before reacting.

Over the following decade China instituted wide ranging ans fundamental military reforms. It also fought a series of smaller engagements with Vietnam that eventually saw China get all the territory it claimed along the border. China for the win. China has a formidable military now, only lacking combat experience. There is no guarantee it can take Taiwan now, but at some point the ability will exist if the will does.

 

Because Taiwan is a democracy and that is one thing the CCP can't stand?

 

History tells you - Communists don't 'take over' or 'invade'
they 'LIBERATE.'
Liberate you from what? Well, that's another story.

 

I doubt you would recognize history if it jumped down your throat, and clearly you know nothing of any worth about it.

Still waiting for info on France occupying Taiwan before China did. Dates? names?

 

You never heard Communists say they 'liberated' a nation or people?
Certainly I have never heard of Communists 'conquering' a people. That
smacks of imperialism and subjugation, which Communists do but deny.

Taiwan was settled by the Dutch in the 17th Century.

 

Which has three fifths of SFA to do with what China did to Vietnam in 1979.

You can always pick someone who has zero command of facts - they talk in sweeping generalities and then desperately try to get what few lonely facts they encounter to fit them.

So its the Dutch now. Well I suppose that is close to France. I mean, why not just say Sweden, or Austria? They are pretty close to Holland. Practically the same thing really.

You could have taken 30 seconds for a quick fact check....OK, who am I kidding. Too much like hard work.

 

Did I say French? Sorry, French were Johny Come Lately to the Pacific. Good thing
as Australia could have been divied up between French and English. And worse,
maybe Portuguese and German. We could have another Somme here in Australia.

It's interesting. I read somewhere that the Taiwanese were early colonists to SE Asia,
even setting up shop in Philippines. All so-called 'indigenous' people are nothing of the
sort - the earth has seen many waves of conquerors, going back before modern man.
In Australia Aborigines call themselves the 'First People.' That's not very scientific -
how do you prove you were first? Homo denisovan was likely in Sahul, the great PNG
and Australian continent.

 

Since when did leaking your own battle plans become a sign of strength? No, matter how many connections the Chinese have to the Biden family and how deep they are, some things the American population simply won't accept. Like allowing China to eat Taiwan for breakfast.

No, worry kids! Taiwan stays independent from China and the Chinese are only embarrassing themselves with this kind of leak.

 

It's been said that Taiwan could become America's 1939 Poland.
We don't know, neither do the Chinese. And in any military show
down the Americans will soundly whip the Chinese.

 

If I was the leader of Taiwan I would announce to the world that Taiwan wants to join the mainland of China, but only if the mainland adopts a democratic government, with regular contested elections, and open political debate.

 

Oh, my goodness! In response to America conducting war games in the region, Chinese forces leaked their battle plans... So scary... There must be a word for this in the English language... Can it be the word 'lame'? Or is there anything better to describe the situation?

 

I haven't been following Chinese war games. I can't comment on that aspect.
But China's border conflicts with 20 nations is no game.

 

Nobody argues China's intentions in relation to some of its neighbors are suspicious, to say the least. But for now, there is no reason for Taiwan to raise the red white flag.

 

You seriously think we got out of the "business" of chemical and biological weapons? WE THE PEOPLE only know what we're fed by a government that'll hide the time of day behind the all purpose pretext of "National Security".

 

On a related note...

It’s Getting More Likely The Japanese Would Fight For Taiwan

Japanese authorities, increasingly worried about China’s determination to invade and forcibly “reunify” Taiwan, reportedly asked American officials to share U.S. plans for defending Taiwan.

That’s the bombshell news from Financial Times reporters Demetri Sevastopulo and Kathrin Hille.

The Americans “demurred,” Sevastopulo and Hille wrote, “because it wanted to focus on boosting co-ordination with Tokyo in phases.”

A “former U.S. official” told the reporters the goal was for the U.S. and Japanese armed forces eventually to write a single integrated plan for a Taiwan contingency.

The real revelation in Sevastopulo and Hille’s reporting isn’t the prospect of a joint U.S.-Japanese war plan. It’s that Japanese leaders apparently have resigned themselves to war in the event China invades Taiwan.

Frankly this is all new to me. I had no idea that the Japanese consider an invasion of Taiwan something that they feel is worth fighting for. That's odd for a country that has seemed as if it was out of the war business for good. Also, it seems as if they've found an unsteady partner with the United States. Although US timidity is probably a good thing. I no longer feel that the US could successfully prosecute such a war and would get our asses handed to us. Best to just sit it out and admit we're no longer a global power.

 

Better luck with the Chinese then? Go ask THEM if they are working on something.

 

If they publish it, then its almost certainly a bluff.

Sure, Washington created China. Good work.

He was not even Russian.

Restore by endlessly crying and whining after losing elections, and getting half the country to lose faith in democracy......interesting.

 

Well first I don't care if they invade Taiwan because it is theirs anyway. Second, if they published something, then it is mere propaganda.

 

Pompeo said the Chinese are deadly serious in their threats, and that's the opinion I formed considering their history and our impositions and arrogance - something that has always been part and parcel of Western culture.

The Chinese are very proud people and have suffered immensely, so frankly I wouldn't mess with them. What we're doing with our impositions and demonizing is hardening them even more, so that instead of relaxing their laws and outlook, they are solidifying them as protection from our propaganda onslaught.