Biden Negotiating With Taliban

Taliban are effectively in control of tens of thousands of Americans and Afghani allies.

1) Biden cannot afford politically for the Taliban slaughtering/torturing/hostage taking

2) I’m sure he’s talking tough with threats to the Taliban, or at least he’s saying he is, but Biden cannot afford politically to fight his way to save them. The cost in lives will politically destroy him.

…so he’s going to negotiate like no other President has done before.

What’s he going to give them? I posited elsewhere that he’ll prob give them a hell of a lot of money in the guise of humanitarian help (you know, like the US loves to do to make itself feel morally superior while enriching our enemies).

*sigh*

 

He already left a plethora of high tech military arms.. and they have the potential to take hostages to further extort money from Biden,, and they have good reason to believe that will work with this weak sister.. certainly did the last time he was in the White house

 

except for the one that came before him who actually had a signed agreement with the Taliban.

 

I'm sure Biden has thought of every constituency, oops, contingency in Afghanistan! He said so himself!!

 

But Trump! But Trump!

 

Did he or did he not negotiate with the Taliban?

A simple yes or no will do

 

But Trump! But Trump! Nice attempt at dragging a smelly red herring across this thread, but I'm not chasing it.

Does Biden have any plans on getting the Americans out yet?

 

sounds like Afghans are starting to fight back

"‘Panjshir stands strong’: Afghanistan’s last holdout against the Taliban"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...s-last-holdout-against-the-taliban/ar-AANtbtk

 

Yeah.. well thief of our presidential election rendered that agreement null and void. At least Pres Trump could demonstrate he had teeth to back up his commitments.

 

Trump did it, so why upset if Biden does it?

 

Are you saying Biden is not going to negotiate as much as Trump? You know this how? Because when I say he’s going to negotiate harder than any other President, that me giving him the benefit of the doubt that when 15k American lives are on the line he’s going to negotiate harder than a President who didn’t

 

Trump gave them 5000 Prisoners last year, many top Taliban leaders, Trump should have gave them this after we got our people out

not sure what kinda deal Biden can make at this point, but we will see

 

including the new president of the country

 

What will politically destroy him is if he doesn’t fight for them. If 3000 deaths on 9-11 was worth the invasion then it stands to reason that 10000+ is worth it again.

 

I am saying that Biden will not be the first POTUS to negotiate with the Taliban

 

If negociating means bending over and grabbing the ankles..

 

That negotiation obviously had nothing to do with what’s going on today. Did he let them know that Biden will do what he’s doing in that negotiation? This is Biden’s mess

 

sure it did, Trump's Taliban deal was a failed deal, now Biden it up to bat, he may fail too, time will tell

 

I don’t know much of this and seeing as it’s off topic I won’t comment on it unless I see its relevance to what Biden will do. But I tried looking it up and I type “did Trump release Taliban prisoners” and “how many terrorists did Trump release”, and I get zero relevant articles coming up.

I’d like to learn more about this if true. Do you have a link so I can get up to speed on this?

 

it's very on topic, we are talking about negotiating with the Taliban

"Ex-defense secretary: Trump's push to get US troops out of Afghanistan possibly 'undermined' deal with Taliban"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/politics/mark-esper-donald-trump-taliban-afghanistan-cnntv/index.html

"After years of negotiations, the Taliban and the Trump administration finally signed a peace deal in 2020. The US agreed to withdraw troops and release some 5,000 Taliban prisoners"

 

Except I don’t think his political mind will think that way. I think he’ll use force only if they give him no other choice, and until then he’ll negotiate whatever he has to.

 

Reread the thread title. We are talking about Biden’s negotiating with the Taliban, and if you reread the OP we are talking more specifically what he’s going to do in the very near future.

you are not only changing the person we are talking about, you are going back in the past to do it with no meaningful relevance to Biden’s negotiating for American safe passage.


Now that that’s out of the way, do you have that link? Because I wasn’t speaking tongue in cheek in any way about wanting to learn more about your assertion. Open up your own thread about it even if you want.

 

agree, the Taliban has to be careful here, Biden does not want to restart this war, if they force him to make that choice, that is on them

 

in order to talk about that, you have to talk about other deals with the Taliban, especially the one by Trump.... Common sense

edit : I added a link previous post

 

There’s only one reason to do that and that’s to shift blame around, which is completely worthless when are asking ourselves what Biden can and should do right now, in the present.

We’ve got plenty of threads going around talking about blame on 4 different presidents. You’ll feel right at home there, but right here it’s simply not relevant nor helpful. If you’ve got ideas on what Biden should do right now in his current predicament, by all means. I’d still love to see a link to your claim. But blame shifting simply isn’t relevant to a discussion on what Biden should/will do