A perfect rebuttal to anti maskers

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    The guy talks as he begins to strip away the constraints of society and govt in search of his liberty and freedom

    according to a comment below, evidently this clip ended just a couple of seconds too soon. When the committee chairman asks him to put his pants back on, he said "is that your recommendation or a govt mandate?
     
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    He does have a point. Lol it was a great expression of speech. However there are no requirements by law to wear pants. There are no government mandates for you to wear a shirt. I see people in shorts and shirtless in the summer quite often. I also see people in speedos on the beech.

    A mask mandate also goes against the natural ability to breath in some cases where people are granted medical exemptions. I don’t see any medical exemptions for nudity.

    But I will give him an A+ for amusement and effort.
     
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    Nobody knew if he was going to stop at the pants, thats why security was closing in on him. Govt and local businesses take a wobbling penis, or breast very very seriously in their dress codes. But requiring masks to save the lives of children, the medically fragile or the elderly is a breach of our personal liberties not to be tolerated.

    I will worry about those folks having trouble breathing because of mask mandates, when more of them end up hospitalized and at deaths door, than are people attached to a ventilator waiting for death because of the virus.
     
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    Calling out government when it becomes authoritarian is good and necessary. However it should be done while wearing pants in public setting.
     
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    There are laws that require people to wear clothing in public. Any business can deny entry to someone without a shirt or trousers/pants. There are also indecent exposure laws in just about every municipality. It's more lax in beach towns and on cruises.

    https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/cr...sure laws in most,to entice a sexual response.

    I was asked to leave a church service because my kids had on tank tops when it was about 98 degrees out. Allegedly, their shoulders were "distracting". I think if those people were paying attention to the minister, they wouldn't have time to turn around and scowl at us. <eye roll>
     
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    You didn’t get my point. Indecent exposure is nudity. You can wear a Speedo without getting that ticket. I realize places of business can require a certain type of dress. I am talking about government. The naked cowboy in NY gets away with just a Speedo right? I’ve seen girls wearing string bikinis without getting tickets on the streets as well.
     
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    It's actually idiotic. He talks about violating laws that serve a public good and comparing them to a law requiring a vanity mask.
     
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    So, quick question, show the study for mask effectiveness that "saves the life of a child" then. You seem certain in your ability to spread this kind of misinformation. Perhaps you can explain this, as medical study after medical study all continue to say the same thing. Masks don't protect the wearer of them. More, in most cases, the kinds of masks that most children do wear are worn improperly and couldn't stop their ability to spread any disease in the first place.

    Would you require women to cover their faces and heads? I mean, to "protect men" and all? You don't seem to understand the slope your sliding down. More, you seem willing to ignore it. And to put a super fine point on it. Why do you assume that given the actual science that you've felt entitled to ignore that doesn't support your assertion, that you still feel entitled to demand folks follow your little tyranny?
     
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    If mask mandates were intended to reduce the spread of infection, they would include mandating that masks be made of proper materials that can do so and mandating that masks be sanitized or replaced regularly. Without those, people just follow the bare minimum which results in folks breathing through the same non-filtering scarf or hankey all day and turning it and themselves into contanimated superspreaders.

    Clearly mask mandates are not about preventing the spread of infection. They're about hyping up fear and virtue signalling submission to authority. The folks who actually follow the proper protocols to reduce infection effectively will do so without a mandate.
     
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    I see your point. There may be local laws for such matters but no Federal guidelines.

    No heterosexual or bisexual man is going to complain about a woman walking around in a bikini. That's not happening unless she's 80 years old or 800 lbs or both. ;-)
     
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    Do you know that the majority of the masks that people wear are only 10% effective?
     
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    I am not going to go over this and over this and over this with people like you any more. Its a waste of my time and the CDC's time I WILL not show you the study. I WILL not offer you a link. I will not debate preposterous and ludicrous strawmen with you. I will not educate you or debate the science with you or your ilk any more. When you line up the dying and dead bodies of all people who's lives were lost, because they wore a little cloth mask over their mouths and noses for too long in public, and that line is longer than the number of people who died from this virus, I will worry about the impact of policies on the health of people required to wear those little pieces of cloth.

    It is my view that any govt fine based on public health measures that is less than 5% of someone's annual net income is a waste of its paper. Adults who breach govt masking mandates as required more than twice should be sentenced to jail time or house arrest as quickly as we can get them in front of a judge. Adults are responsible for children under their care who are not masked consistent with govt mandates should be held accountable for their protection and their conduct. I am soooooo done coddling people like you.

    I don't give a crap about your 'liberty interest'. Wear the masks consistently, and properly consistent with all policies, laws and protocals or stay home and wither up in isolation. Your liberty interest rests in that choice.
     
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    It's a religion now...the Branch Covidians and the Cult Of The Mask.
     
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    Translation: "I cannot back up my shrieks of outrage, so I will now proclaim victory, then take my ball and go home in a snit."
     
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    So is the average swimsuit or underwear at protecting society's sense of modesty. That's why the security guys were closing in in case that underwear came down, and the Committee chair asked that the pants go back on.
     
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    Translation. "I have been unwilling to learn this for the last 18 months, but I really have liked the attention I keep getting from the teacher, so teacher has to stand at my desk and 'help' me as often I want for as long as I want it just because I am entitled to it and it feels good to get it"

    No. You don't get more attention for being deliberately stubborn or obtuse. Its time you got less.
     
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    When the people that hate me for what I believe morally and politically, and that seem to go out of their way to find a new way to offend the people they hate, every day - well, when those people start ordering me to do anything - I just laugh.
     
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    Masks don't do anything pants do.
     
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    Simple truth, you won't show the study, because it doesn't exist. You're on the island of your own demands. Simple as that. You'd put folks in burkas if you could, wouldn't you.
     
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    One mask properly used by the right person at the right time, does more good, than a 1000 pairs of pants do on most anyone, at any time no matter how they are put on.
     
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    No it doesn't. Wearing a vanity mask on your face does nothing.

    Like trying to stop mosquitoes with a volleyball net
     
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    The study does not exist to convince you. You are not only on the Island of your own demands, you are its monarch, its only source of authority and its only court of appeal. Its as simple as that. You like that burka imagery a lot. I can only imagine why.
     
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    yes it does. Stop typing out faux analogies because you are too lazy, and self centered to put one on.
     
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    Who cares that he stripped down to a swim suit. He looks like an idiot but that isn't against the law. Neither is wearing a mask.
     
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    No it doesn't.

    Insisting on something doesn't make it so.
     

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