Planned Parenthood's former president says she was instructed to say 'abortion' in every interview.

I'm not trashing PP for providing abortions. I'm just saying they were playing the shell game with their monies in order to do it. They even admit that themselves. They get X amount of money from the federal government, Y amount of money from other sources, mix it all together, and then claim that the money used for abortions came from the Y pool. But, they do make the false claim that the right are trying to stop them from providing needed health services for women when the right aren't trying to do that at all. Even planned parenthood says that abortions are only 3% of their business so, if they want full funding from the federal government for the services they provide, all they have to do is drop the miniscule part of their business and keep 97% of their business and they will be able to continue providing 97% of the services they provide and get full funding from the federal government.

 

Recycling previous dodges does not address the issues with enforcement I asked about. No one else has been able to address these issues either. One forum member suggested scanners at airports on departure and arrival so that those that leave pregnant and arrive not pregnant could be apprehended. I asked how arresting those that had a miscarriage benefits society. Like all the others, he gave up.

I admire your persistence and appreciate the polite discussion. Can you think of any way our government can solve this issue with interference?

 

Yes, and how many women have abortions because they don't feel they can afford to feed, clothe and care for another child? Lots.

You're a bookend for a woman my wife and I have known for more than a half-century ran a transition house for battered women. She had a similar experience with pro-lifers.

 

Money is fungible. Just give them money for the other services they provide and leave it at that.

Pro-lifers are so torqued about government money somehow finding its way to an abortion provider they take money away from organizations providing women with health services. Why shouldn't nonbelievers insist on making sure no money goes to a private school run by a church? Or a church charity?

Why should they have to stop providing abortions to get funding for 97% of their activities?

 

A fetus is not a person.

 

Right. Pleasure seems to be a motivating factor in human reproduction. Abortion is a form of birth control that recognizes human beings get caught up in the heat of the moment and unwanted pregnancies happen.

So, don't have an abortion is you think aborting a fetus, especially during the first trimester, is "grotesque and irresponsible."

A fetus is not a person.

Rather judgmental of you.

So, then, have your say, but don't but in other folks' business.

 

All PPP has to do is quit with the abortions and they can provide all kinds of women's health services with federally funded money. If they want to continue abortions without federal money then fine. They have the right to do that.

 

A fetus is not a person,

I think pressing to use government to push pregnant women is immoral, but you don't see me trying to silence you.

Right. If you're unprepared to accept going through a pregnancy, you can abort.

A kitten has been born and someone else can care for it.

 

Just give them money for providing the other services. You avoided the question above.

 

Ok we can dance around in circles forever on this.

Yes. A fetus is a person. It's every bit as alive and striving to develop to adulthood as a new born. Because it hasn't developed arbitrary characteristics to satisfy your desire to prove it exists is inconsequential. We can go back and forth till the cows come home. But in the end I know it's there. I know it's alive...it's human. And if allowed will grow into a full grown adult. Nothing you say will deter me of that reality.

Nobody is pushing women to do anything. It's about realizing the immoral actions of abortion and taking responsibility over it. It's immoral. As much as it's complicated and really ****ing hard for people to not engage in the one damn act that can create a person, wielding the power to create willy nilly because nature also happened to make it feel good. In the end, the act of abortion is immoral.

It just is.

So if you are unprepared to go through pregnancy, don't do the one thing that can get you pregnant!

 

Would be glad to fully fund them if they weren't providing abortions.

 

Pro-lifers are harassing Planned Parenthood. I don't respect that.

 

A fetus is not a sentient being. It is entirely dependent upon its host. Women are not baby-making society chattel.

Her body, her choice.

God told you this stuff?

So, don't have one if that's how you feel.

Don't have one.

If it works for you. Otherwise, MYOB.

 

You're punishing them for exercising their legal rights.

Leftwingers would have to invent you if you didn't exist. You're going to split the right with your religious stuff.

 

In your opinion.

 

That wasn't my point. @Woolley said, "if you don't like abortion, don't have one." I'm saying that that's no different
to saying that murder should be legal, because, if you don't like murder, don't murder! It's a truly HOPELESS argument!

 

Recycling? No, you just didn't respond to it! Here it is again: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...very-interview.590459/page-17#post-1072896393

I'm not suggesting that we prevent abortion tourism. Just as we're both not suggesting that we prevent murder tourism. Because it's simply not possible to prevent.

You cannot complain about ANYONE giving up! Unless you genuinely missed my post and that's why you didn't reply.

 

This so called 'right' involves the labour of another person. Can women end their pregnancy safely by themselves?

How does Planned Parenthood attempt to "save babies" exactly?

 

What do you mean?

 

None. How many of these children have you adopted?

Murder laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society.

 

Why TF should women do what YOU want them to do??

You do NOT Rule on what is moral or not....you don't have that power

 

What a silly, silly statement...of course laws against murder can be enforced and they are...

 

Yes, and one seeming shared by the more than 60% of Americans who support the right of women to decide whether or not to have an abortion in the first trimester.

 

Yes. Mifepristone and misoprostol.

 

Actions dictate morality hun.