Fox News Anchor Chris Wallace On Biden’s Border Crisis: It’s Time To ‘Build A Wall’

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    But it has to be proven in a court of law that they know. Not an easy task.
     
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    It's not my word at all. That is literally the word used in the law books.

    I would imagine it'd be the same as what I have to provide when I apply for a job. DOB, SSN, drivers license, home address, references. Criminal background check and resume depending on the business I had.
     
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    That is an old one. And one that precedes the current crisis we have at the border. Here's a more recent one:

    LINK: What Issues Matter Most To Voters in 2022 U.S. Mid-Term Elections: Long Island University Hornstein Center National Poll | LIU Headlines

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    At the link you will even find a break down by party and for independents.

    So...what was that about "out of touch"?
     
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    Show us where the left does, I'll wait.....
     
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    Because Trump didn't hire them. A supervisor did. And he got fired. Trump probably hasn't hired a single person by himself in years unless it was on his show The Apprentice. He has people that do that for him. And they have people that do that for them as well.

    Here's an example. I once worked at a casino which also had an Inn and restaurant. The casino was nominally operated by native Americans. But it was actually RAN by a big corporation who had control of the Inn side of things. (the owner being rich enough to buy a multi-million dollar yacht that he was going to use to sail around the world...then 9/11 happened and he never did so he sold it) The owner of that corporation hired the general manager that ran the day to day big things for the Inn and Casino. He hired supervisors for each department. And those supervisors hired the employees. I'm quite sure that the same happens at any Trump business. Only a bit more involved as he probably has other people who hire the general managers.

    But of course I'm sure that you know that is how things work. And you're just ignoring it in favor of bashing Trump.
     
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  6. Hollyhood

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    You’re wrong about me being obligated to hire Citizens and fire illegal aliens. My choice to hire citizens within my immediate control for administrative and construction work is a personal one.

    Immigration laws are not enforced in the United States. Therefore, General Contractors (GCs) are free to hire them and bring down the cost of labor for a bid. Under US law, they are not exploited. They are protected by minimum wage laws, and have a right to sue if they aren’t paid the minimum or time and a half for working overtime. The Property (construction site) Owner is going to accept the lowest bid for work, and the GC, along with Subcontractors, determines the labor costs. This is how the US construction industry works. The property owners and construction companies don’t care that illegal aliens are hired to work, and the law protects the owners and construction Corporations that hire third parties with illegal workers.

    Not all Americans exploit illegal workers. For instance, blue collar Republicans don’t use their labor or want them in the country cause they drive the price of labor down. There are also construction companies that have had to change into a repair business cause they cannot compete with contractors that hire illegal aliens. It’s the Corporate politicians on both sides of the aisle that want to exploit their labor cause they represent the industries (Property Owners) that hire the third party contractors with the illegal labors. To give you another example, hundreds of third party chicken farms are forced to accept unfair sums and burdensome duties with Tyson Chicken, so the farmers are forced to pay illegal aliens just to earn a living. Tyson is aware that the farmers need illegal work to make a profit, and they expect it of them

    I get that you want blame me and hold me responsible for the situation, but I took this job in my early 20s and I wasn’t going on some crusade to die on my sword. I couldn’t just kick illegal aliens off jobs, because the contractors might quit, delay or stop the project, I might have to look for a new GC, the company might be liable for breach of contract, and I would definitely lose my job. I could ask Sub-Contractors for a list of employees, but they would probably not send me a proposal. And I got perform for my boss, who could give a flying-fudge if there’s illegal aliens on the job. It’s all part of the game.

    The people to blame are the big multi-national corporations that utilize the woke-leftists and Marxists who scream racism in order to fight policies that would hinder illegal aliens and work. It is a scheme establishment politicians in both the Republican and Democrat party use to divide people in the country. Socialist, Communist, and Marxist movements will always be co-opted by elites capitalizing on divisive and exploitative divisions in class and race. Most governments in history have done the same.
     
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    I say that it is the economy that makes or breaks a President.

    And not the 13th... or 6th issue.

    And that while you may scare each other MAGA with your stories of invading Mexicans, your xenophobia will not allow Trump - or any other Conservative - to occupy the WH again.
     
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    This is generally the way it works. My boss at my construction firm hired people to administrate every aspect of a construction project, and I delegated those duties to contractors and sub-contractors. I spear-headed dozens of projects around the United States that required construction or remodeling of thousands of units for property billion dollar property managements companies that were hired by mutlibillion dollar property owners. The CEO of those property management companies never hired a single employee. Having also worked on a residential domicile for Trump and his friend in Boca, I can tell you for certain that he uses a middleman which I had to go through every time the interior decorator wanted to make impossible changes that completely conflicted with the architectural drawings.
     
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    The Biden economy is currently going down in flames, and it's become a bigger issue due to inflation.

    The immigration crisis has become a more prevalent issue in the mind of voters due to the worldwide economic turmoil stemming from the long shutdown, and consequently, extensive supply-chain issues.

    Your racist views against white work class Americans will continue to damage Democrats in many regions, and the economic burden absorbed from the influx of illegal immigrants will only highlight these flaws to other voting groups. Accusing the other side of racism is merely a last ditch effort by the left to refocus attention away from Democrat Covid-19 policies that African Americans have started to resist based on racist objections.

    There's no doubt that more people have started to see Trump's position on immigration as effective in comparison to the disaster that's been caused by the Biden Administration.
     
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    Obviously you don't know what you are talking about.

    +6% growth with Biden in the last 10 months.

    Trump has never done better than 4.5% for a single quarter, an average of 2.6%/year through January 2020.

    If Biden's economy is going down in flames, I wonder what kind of definition applies to Trump's.

    Not at all.

    There is no immigration crisis.

    The problems at the border have been constant for 25 years.

    Your goal is to instrumentalize MAGA xenophobia.

    It worked well in 2016, but it doesn't work anymore.

    If you have no doubt, continue in this direction.

    In the meantime, Democrats are running the country with the support of the majority of voters.
     
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    Especially considering the Trump built that "Great Wall" (that Mexico paid for)...
    Oh, wait...
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    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...omise/1397/build-wall-and-make-mexico-pay-it/
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    What a dishonest thread.

    Wallace was talking about one specific dam, that there should be a fence, a wall, a gate - at that specific place.

    That’s not controversial. Most people who care about border security - Dems and Rs - agree that physical barriers are an essential part of border security.

    But they don’t need to be everywhere. They need to be cost effective.
     
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    I'm going to get back on topic. It's clear that Biden has caused a disaster at the border, and his party wishes to racist rhetoric to refocus the attention away from his failures. Nobody is buying it. The Dallas Morning News just released a poll showing 54% of Hispanics disapprove of Joe Biden.
     
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    Yeah. That's Trump's plan. You build wall over areas where there are no natural barriers. You agree with Trump.
     
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    Useless photo. It takes time to climb and is a deterrent and makes them easier to catch
    I could post a picture of a door being broken into. Does that mean we don’t need doors anymore?
    Sad!
    Please try harder and put some effort into it next time
     
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    sorry. I meant to reply to the one with them sitting on it. I agree with a lot of your points about making it less desireable
     
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    Not his plan. America has building barriers for over 100 years. It took off under Clinton.
    Trump touted it as a panacea - which it isn’t - and made it an objective in and of itself.
    It was a moronic slogan.
     
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    Very Bad indeed, he's a bigger Trump hater then the majority over the top solid left we see foaming at the mouth over him on social media...
     
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    Oh... Clinton, huh? Why'd it stop? Do you remember? I'm sure you also remember that the Clinton Administration had determined that illegal immigration was harmful to economy. Within reports, the Administration determined that Illegal Immigration would cause lower wages, increase income inequality, burden the welfare system, take jobs from blue collar workers and African Americans.

    You literally stated that you agreed with a plan that he's been stating for half a decade. Okay... so you disagreed cause you thought Trump was only highlighting one plan even though he also created a processing system within Mexico. You still agree with his plan to build the wall.

    So you agree with Trump, but you didn't like his slogan.

    It's okay. You can say that you agreed with Trump on this one issue.
     
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    He starts out in bad faith when he says a wall would become an environmental problem. Immigration over the Mexican Border to the desert SW has absolutely created one of the greatest environmental problems to water resources in the United States. The worst drought in the nation is occurring in New Mexico (72% Mexican Population), where the immigrant population skyrocketed in the 1970s despite warnings from the US geological service that it would definitely destroy the environment. This border crisis has caused another wave of illegal immigrants into New Mexico towns.
     
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    Barriers were built under Clinton, W, Obama and Trump.
    It’s okay for you to say that you agreed with Clinton, W and Obama (as well as Trump) on this one issue.
     
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    The only way this can be accomplished is with a national ID system — preferably a digital biometric one — we could use it to verify voting eligibility also.
     
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    Biden's current 37% approval rating among independents is his lowest to date and 24 points below his personal high of 61%. Two-thirds of Biden's slide among independents since he took office has occurred in the past three months. Total approval is at 43%.

    Biden is whats going down in flames. Seems to be a lot of buyers remorse for a guy who was supposed to have received more votes than any president in history.
    That went south really quick. I guess his 57% disapproval rating says something completely different than what you claim.
     
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    Was it Democrat xenophobia when they built over 900 miles of border wall? Or are they now just being hypocritical?
     
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    I been saying I support that for years

    do you agree this would work though? should we do it?
     
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