Have you ever denounced or changed your religious affiliation? If so, why?

I was sent to Catholic School from the 4th to the 10th grade. I can say that IMO the surest way I know of to turn your kid into an Atheist is to send him to Catholic School. From what I've heard of all the others are worse.

Religion was thought up to reinforce the authority of the government. For just about all of human history to question religion was to question the authority of the State and we all know what happens then. Religion and the State are still trying to enforce that concept with varying degrees of success.

 

What do you consider speaking? full language of modern day man? Simple grunts and gestures to pass along ideas? When speech came along, writing would not have existed for many thousands of years later. They definitely did not come into existence at the same time.

 

Actually, there are many Hindus and Buddhists who have come to know of Jesus Christ and converted accepting Christ as their personal Savior. My first Stake President when I was attending BYU was from India and came over with a dot in his forehead. He converted and became a leader in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The only Church today with the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the only Church (religion) that has the authority for all the saving ordinances needed for Eternal Life in our Father's Celestial Kingdom of Heaven. That is the ultimate truth. It's again on the Earth, restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith. No need to wander in the wilderness of thought and ideas.

 

You have it backwards. Samarians got all their stories from Adam. Samarians came later, after the flood.

 

You are using your delusion to prove your delusion. All religions do that.

 

I reject the idea that the teachings of Jesus belong only to Christianity. If anything, Christians distorted the teachings of Jesus to hold power over the masses. Spirituality is a journey of understanding that we will not be able to complete in our present forms. All religions and spiritual traditions, including your religion, are incomplete. I won't say they are wrong, because I am sure much truth can be found there. But that can be said in most religions, as long as they had true spiritual roots and were not just made up to mislead. To think that any religion is the be all and end all of spirituality is how things like the crusades and jihads and other "holy" conflicts come about. There is always more to be learned, and that learning can come from surprising places. We are given more understanding when we are open to it and are ready for it.

 

I do not doubt that there could have been civilizations before the flood, but I doubt they had systems of writing. And the flood in Sumeria changed the shape of the Persian Gulf, but there was still plenty of land where this writing would have been preserved if it existed.

 

Prove then Samarians came before Adam...

 

Prove your opinion. You can't. It's then just an opinion. Christians have the Bible as proof of Jesus Christ. To take a portion of this is what people do to satisfy their own sins. They leave the rest because it condemns them. Part of what you say is true. There is still much to learn within the order of Heaven and not of any order of man. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, atoned for our sins and paved the way to Eternal resurrection then anything that suggests otherwise if false spiritualism. There is order in Heaven and on Earth when it comes to God. So, while many religions have truths they teach, as do many Christian Churches, there is only one truth and directional order. The one who God gives authority to exercise His Priesthood which is God's power. The same power that organized the Heavens and the Earth. Hinduism and Buddhaism reject this.

 

Prove your opinion. You can't. The Bible is cherry picked, and distorted. You seriously think god contacted only one group of people, and abandoned the rest? That's absurd. God has visited all people, all societies, all ethnicities, and communicated to them spiritual truths in a way that would best fit their view of the world.

You talk about the same power that organized the heavens and the earth, but it took science to uncover the workings of the universe, many of who were not even christian, or at least only paid lip service to christianity. Meanwhile christianity had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the truth that the earth travels around the sun, and that earth is not even remotely the center of creation. The truths of the universe come through atheists and scientists as well. In the end, spirituality and science will be one and the same.

I'm glad your spiritual path works for you, but do not be deluded into thinking your truth is the only truth, or that god has selected your group above all others. God loves all people, all faiths, all traditions, as he IS all of them. We are all the same being, all eternal souls, fragments of god, having a human experience here on earth.

 

LOL.
Adam didn't show up for 5000 yrs after HInduism. You didn't read the link on religion history.


Adam wrote? What? Can you point to a document from history that he wrote? And what would he read? Who else was writing.
Has to be the Hindu people since they were here for 5000 yrs before Adam.

 

You have it backwards. Adam was about 6,000 years ago. The Flood was about 4,500 years ago. So, Samaria was after that and the other pagan heathen religions. This is where they got their ideas from.

 

Smart move.

I went to Gnostic Christianity to try to bring Christianity out of supernatural beliefs and to what, Chrestianity and now Gnostic Christianity, was before Christianity polluted it by usurping it's holy books of a good man over god ideology.

Not a supernatural genocidal evil god that we are to emulate.

Nice that most of us reject such a putrid god.

The religious con men all suck on the same public tip buddy.

Religions, as they shrink, especially at the speed it is showing, will have all the faiths scrambling for the cash the gullible will continue to spend on myths and poor morals.

It will form all kinds of mergers and offshoots.

Thank God for Atheist churches.

Atheist are just a cut below those of our ilk, retaining loyalty wise.

I just berated some for not being militant enough to show their anger at the religious homophobia and misogyny that afflict all, believer or not.

Regards
DL

 

What are they, and do you practice it?

Regards
DL

 

Come on, at least read what you respond to. If Adam was here 6000 yrs ago, that was 4000BCE. Hinduism dates back to 7000BCE.
And Judaism, the religion of Adam, didn't show up until 2000 BCE according to you the link I gave you.

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1. Hinduism (Circa 7,000 BCE)
Country or Region of Origin: Indus River Valley (Modern-day Pakistan)
Number of Current Followers: ~ 900 Million

2. Judaism (Circa 2,000 BCE)
Country or Region of Origin: Southern Levant (Modern-day Israel, Palestine, and Jordan)
Number of Current Followers: ~ 13 Million
https://www.oldest.org/religion/religions/

Don't tell me I have it backwards when I gave you actual data.

I never said anything about Samaria.

 

According to Sumerian inscriptions, the first Sumerian king we can put a date to due to archaeological evidence is Enmebaraggesi at about 2700 BC, or 4700 years ago. According to their list of kings there is another 22 kings that came before him but after the great flood. According to their lists, and the lengths of their reigns, there was 22,985 years between the floods and the reign of Enmebaraggesi. The lengths of these reigns are likely not very accurate, but even so, your timeline is off by quite a bit.

My source for this is the awesome book "The History of the Ancient World" by Susan Wise Bauer.

 

I was Christian, changed to more of a Buddhist belief

reading the bible, it just wasn't what I believe a God would be and did not sound like the words of a God

 

I don't care what these atheist (BCE) old earthers have to say. They are wrong. Most likely perhaps 2,000 BC.

 

Made no sense. First king was 4700 years ago, most likely 4000 years ago. But, then, what the heck is the 22,985 years about?

 

You can make up whatever you want. I don't care. You just can't back it up.
But at least I can point to legit sources who've studied history, humankind, and religions.

Here's another site: Which puts Judaism as the 3rd oldest religion.

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Hinduism (founded around the 15th – 5th century BCE)
Hinduism may not be a unified religion per se, or organized into a distinctive belief system, but Hindus (as they have been identifying themselves for centuries, the result of opposition with other religions) roughly follow the same central traditions, understandable to all the religion’s multifarious adherents.

Zoroastrianism (10th – 5th century BCE)
The ancient Indo-Iranian religion of Zoroastrianism (known to natives as Mazdayasna) – said to date back to the 2nd millennium BCE

Judaism (9th – 5th century BCE)
The foundation for all other Abrahamic religions, and the oldest monotheism still around (though by no means the first – that is alleged to be a variation on ancient Egyptian faith called Atenism, which disappeared in the 14th century BCE)

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/articles/the-8-oldest-religions-in-the-world/

 

Yep but there were religions before Hindu. Adam taught the Gospel in his days to his children and all the way down to Noah. Hindu got it from Adam's teachings and messed it up with major apostasy.

 

It’s an example on how crazy timelines were back then. The Sumerian list of Kings lists all the kings before and after the flood. If their lists are so wacky, how accurate do you think the dates in the Bible are?

 

I was raised catholic and was catholic for many years. Then I broke the addiction, didn't get any more cats and got a dog instead. So no longer catholic, but lots of dogma.

 

Prove Adam existed without pointing to Judeo-Idlamic-Christian religion.

 

It is absurd to think that an all powerful God would have to communicate anything to anyone through books or anything of the sort. Such a being would be beyond such limitations and would simply have you know whatever he/she/it/they want you to know.

The mere existence of these holy books disprove their claims.