Have you ever denounced or changed your religious affiliation? If so, why?

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol, how do you know that the Hindu beliefs are not the right ones and Christians screwed it up? Because the Bible tells you so? Hmmmm….
     
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    Are you saying Adam derailed God's plan?

    How is that possible?

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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    I went from not knowing to knowing that God is real and that he lives.
     
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    What made you adore a genocidal god who kills so often when he could just as easily cure?

    What made you adore a prick?

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    Wouldn't "he lives" mean he is mortal?
     
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    What makes you think that your understanding is accurate upon which you then base your self righteous anger and cast your aspersions. You don't even know God. If you did, you wouldn't utter such things. Even common sense dictates that to make war with the unknown is a fools errand when ones eternal welfare hangs in the balance. One should rather tread lightly, especially when great evil is also afoot, and dedicate oneself to living rightfully, lest that evil first steal your soul and then the very life you love. What then is your cushion.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are confusing God with humans hijacking religion for their own power.
     
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    Yet you have dedicated yourself to a genocidal prick of a god and his homophobic and misogynous religion.

    Your evil living is not righteous living.

    Stop hating your gay and female children.

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    I do not think so.

    Is Yahweh depicted as an evil entity to you, or a good one?

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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    personally, I don’t see Yahweh as god at all. According to “the Law of One” Yahweh was a 6th density entity. It made mistakes with genetic manipulation and has been trying to correct them since, because it lead to elitism, which was the opposite of what it was trying to accomplish.
    Other entities, including but not limited to Ra and Jesus have also brought spiritual teachings. They are not really related to Yahweh directly, nor is Yahweh god. The teachings of all of these entities have been corrupted by man for personal or political power, and these corrupted teachings are found in the Bible, Quran, Hindu texts, etc etc. all contain some of the wisdom of the original teachings, but much of these religions have been repurposed, complete with elite religious classes that claim to be the gateway to the infinite or eternal life.

    so, the god you are talking about in the Bible is not actually god, but a corruption of god.
     
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    Still on about your genocidal prick of a god? :roll:

    Tertullian and Augustine would be proud...
     
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    Which is why we named Yahweh a demiurge and condemned his satanic soul to hell. Not that there is such a place.

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    Not mine.

    I am a Gnostic Christian and a cut above most, from what I can see.

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    oh, your gnostic? Interesting. What is the gnostic view on reincarnation? I havnt been able to find a definitive answer on it. I was reading some of the gospels that were excluded from the Bible. The one from Mary Magdalene seemed to be hinting towards Jesus talking about reincarnation, and the other apostles seemed to be angry that Jesus was confiding in her.

    Do Gnostics deal at all with these missing gospels? I was under the impression that they do, but I admit I do not know a whole lot about their views, and I could be mistaken.

    anyways, just curious.
     
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    No, it means I have been afforded a glimpse of his immortality in contrast to our mortality, as well as a remembrance and recognition that he is divine and has always been our heavenly Father. And that our separation is our probation for a purpose wise in him. I don't say this for the cause of entrapment. But for the postponement of our rash judgment in matters of divinity and the welfare of our souls, and for the purpose of hope...that it may be enlivened to the cause of goodness and our eventual salvation and the putting down of doubt and fear. This mortality in which we find ourselves is to me not unlike the whale that swallowed the prophet Jonah and then spit him up to finish his mission, exhorting repentance and the remembrance of God. If God gives one to know, and the conversation draws near like a company, plying response, should one not respond truthfully. Who gives songbirds their songs to fill the air with joy and beauty, reverberating in our ears?
     
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    We are a naturalistic religion in the sense that we hold no supernatural beliefs.

    We do not believe in reincarnation or anything that involves a being higher than ourselves.

    The god of an ant is an ant.
    The god of a lion is a lion.
    The god of a person should be a person.

    Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

    You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

    The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

    In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

    That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

    Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

    Alan Watts - On The Book of Eli - YouTube

    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.

    On Becoming an Adult - YouTube

    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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    Injeun,

    That doesn't make any sense at all to me. It sounds to me like Deepak Chopra. But maybe you are speaking from a different language with a different viewpoint so others who share that will understand.
     
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    No one who does not believe in the supernatural can make sense out of the delusional supernatural believers.

    Hell, they cannot even explain why the are following a genocidal god without seeing how evil he is.

    You have seen me asking, --- and Christians running from their own answers.

    Then they wonder why their religion is shrinking.

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    So, you left the Catholic Church on account of the actions of a couple popes?

    I get that Francis is a Lefty and I don't get why John Paul would kiss a Qur'an, but at least they're not burning Franciscans at the stake for maintaining their belief in the absolute poverty of Jesus and the disciples. In my estimation, what Francis and JP2 did is small potatoes in comparison, and surely you're aware that there's a lot more to the RCC than its leadership.

    To your question in the thread title, I left the Catholic Church a long time ago because my own beliefs no longer conformed to those of the Catholic Church, but I have not denounced the Church. The RCC has its own doctrines and I respect that. Furthermore, while I acknowledge the imperfection of an institution created and run by mere mortals, I also acknowledge the Church and Catholics themselves has done a lot of good over the centuries and still do today.
     
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    Interesting! I share a lot of similar viewpoints, though I think I differ in others.

    In a sense I do not believe there is anything higher than the self, because I believe all that exists is god. Every organism, every particle of sand, is all just expressions of god. Every individual is god, experiencing itself from different perspectives.

    anyways, thank you for the information. I love learning about different spiritual perspectives and the wisdom to be found in them.
     
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    Virtuous women brought me to God. The changing is yours to do.
     
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    After their inquisitors had stolen the property to do their good things from first.

    Sort of like Hitler with the Jewish hospitals and schools in Germany, etc.

    Was it worth the harm they now continue to do to the equality of women and gays?

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    Why?

    I am not the deluded prick who adores an even bigger genocidal prick.

    You are the fool and immoral idiot here. Not me.

    That is why you will not discuss morals. You have garbage ones and you know it.

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    On the other hand, there's no mistaking your grunts, squeals, and utter dearth of civility. Bravo!
     
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    It's the God you believe in - a genocidal prick - that makes him yours.

    So when did Gnostic Christians start believing in Tertullian and Augustine's God, i.e., the genocidal prick?
     
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