Was Trump our worst president?

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have pointed out that 12 of this nations presidents owned black men, women and children.
    I do not see the Democrats ripping those 12 apart and putting them on the fire.
    This nation focuses a huge amount on blacks and the blacks do not deserve this at all.
    I notice whites are all over Earth yet it is here in America out of guilt over their past Democrats duck accepting the guilt and shove it on others who never so much as owned a slave.

    Many of we posters tell the true story of Democrats and their slave owning and their war in the early 1860s. We also point out that Abe Lincoln was a racist. Does not matter to Democrats. I do not get why.
     
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    You ignore the time context. :(

    Many people in Lincoln's lifetime were racist and thought that blacks are inferior. It indeed doesn't matter much to their political opinion.
     
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    My source is the bureau of labor statistics, the Census Bureau, the Bureau of economic analysis and the department of labor

    Your source is:
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    You source extreme far right wing sources and denounce publicly available data
    People like you can never be persuaded, the facts here are for people that are not complete partisan ideologues
     
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    Your GOP Media is your garbage from Rupert Murdoch who has been defanged everywhere else, a total scumbag. And your internet nut jobs too
     
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    Yes his failure to persuade Republicans to get vaccinated Is all his fault. Trump was the worst easily ever -only misinformation makes Republicans even possible lol
     
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    Convict? Of what? Do you understand what impeached is? It's not criminal.
    Clinton also was never convicted.
    the 2X impeached lost the EC vote. That's why the lose was voted out as incumbent What good president loses the EC as an incumbent and gets kicked out of office?
     
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    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../

    Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low
    www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic...
    Oct 04, 2019 · The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%. The Hispanic women unemployment rate was 3.8% in September and
     
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    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.
     
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    Look at some of the things Trump has done in just four years. This is besides the hot economy he created with his policies. I bet the Democrats haven't heard any of this. You have to wonder why. (((Trump's FDA approving wave of generic drugs to lower drug prices ...
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    Oct 23, 2018 - It approved 90% more generic drugs in fiscal year 2018 than 2014. ... One of the Trump administration's most concrete efforts to lower drug prices

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    Dec 20, 2018 · Donald Trump Signs Executive Order $100 Billion To Revitalize Low Income Urban Communities, bringing back jobs and making them safer.

    Trump Signs Bill to Clean Millions of Tons of Garbage from World's Oceans

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    FULL President Trump 2019 Prison Reform Summit and First ...
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    Apr 14, 2019 · Like him or not, President Trump is doing something with prison reform that no other presidents have done. Others promised reform, but never did a thing. The First Step Act. To give them a new lease on life.

    Trump signs bill giving terminally ill patients 'right to try ...
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    President Trump on Wednesday signed legislation into law that gives patients the “right to try” experimental drugs, to give them a chance to live, or at least extend their life, cementing a major policy priority for the White House. ... Trump signs bill ..

    Trump signs ‘Buy American, Hire American’ executive order ...
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    President Trump signed his "Buy American, Hire American" executive order at a factory in Kenosha, Wis., on April 18. He railed on NAFTA and the outsourcing of U.S. Jobs and promised to "make sure

    What the massive US military budget pays for
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    When President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill on Friday, he approved what his administration calls the largest military budget in US history, $700 billion.( to fix the mess Obama left the military in.
    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
    https://www.defensenews.com/.../02/06/grounded-nearly-two...
    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification …

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
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    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.

    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opi.../op-eds/real-change...
    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...

    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
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    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...

    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
    https://www.axios.com/trump-losing-patience-with-va......
    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …
    Drug Prices Will Now Be Listed in Television Ads | Time

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    May 09, 2019 · Drug companies will soon be required to include their prices in television ads, in an effort to drive down costs and boost transparency. TV Ads for Drugs Must Now Include Prices. It's the Latest . (Drug companies have taken this to court)


    No surprise medical bills. https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/450521079085682/ Hospitals have to now be up front with their charges.
     
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    Who really gave into Russia?

    Obama Appeases Putin By Ending U.S. Broadcasts Into Russia ...
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    Liberty: U.S. radio broadcasts to Russians are to end. With President Obama's friend Vladimir Putin getting a dubious 64% in a five-way presidential race in March, this is no time to pretend Russia...


    Did Obama Pledge ‘More Flexibility’ Toward Russia After ...
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    Dec 13, 2016 · A hot microphone picked up President Obama telling Russian President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility to negotiate on issues like


    The Anti-Obama: Trump Selling Missile Defense To Poland ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/.../anti-obama-trump-selling... When Barack Obama capitulated to Russia in 2010 by removing missile launchers in Poland that neared the Russian border? There’s a new sheriff in town. On Wednesday, the Polish state news agency PAP reported that Poland’s government will buy the Patriot missile defense system from the U.S.

    Trump in Poland: U.S. To Sell Warsaw Arms to Stop 'Hot …
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-Poland-Warsaw-us-arms-Russia... A move set to counter Russia’s reinforcement on NATO's borders, Poland and the U.S. Have agreed that Warsaw will purchase the American-made Patriot air defense missile, the Polish government announced Thursday. Trump delighted many in Poland when he announced he would be visiting the country .


    Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in ...
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight... Trump administration approved the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine on Friday as it continues to fight pro-Russian forces in the eastern part of the country, a move that has angered the Kremlin and signifies the U.S. …
    The President of Ukraine asked Obama for weapons to defend his country against Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents wanting to take over the country. Obama gave them food, uniforms, trucks,night vision glasses and blankets. NO WEAPONS. The Ukrainian President said later, you can't fight a war with blankets. Trump gave them the weapons.


    Trump admin announced fresh sanctions on Russia - CNNPolitics
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/us-russia-sanctions...
    Jan 26, 2018 · The Trump administration announced new sanctions Friday related to Russia's occupation of Crimea and ongoing violence in eastern Ukraine, just days ahead of a congressionally mandated deadline for ...


    Trump administration withdraws from U.S.-Russia nuclear weapons ...
    https://www.usatoday.com/.../trump.../2737306002/
    1 day ago - Trump administration withdraws from nuclear weapons treaty, .... Closely review the security implications of Russian intermediate-range missiles and ... Theme he has hit on since Trump's decision to nix the Iran nuclear accord, .
    The Left bitched because he got tough with our NATO Allies. Said he was driving our Allies away. Both Bush and Obama tried to get NATO to put their fair share into a very weak NATO without success. Trump got it and we didn't lose them. ( Nato members increase defense spending by $100 billion ...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/27/nato-members-increase-defence-spending-100...
    Jan 27, 2019 · Nato states will increase their defense spending by $100 billion in response to Donald Trump's demands that European allies shoulder a greater financial burden, the …
    Author: Julie Allen
    NATO head praises Trump for tough talk to member countries
    https://nypost.com/2019/01/27/nato-head-praises-trump-for-tough-talk-to-member-countries
    Jan 27, 2019 · WASHINGTON – The head of NATO on Sunday praised President Trump for demanding member countries pony up more money, saying Trump’s tough talk has produced “real results.” “President Trump .


    U.S. Says It Has Thwarted $6 Billion Russia-Germany Gas ...
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-15/...
    Feb 15, 2020 · Trump has assailed Germany for giving “billions” to Russia for gas while it benefits from U.S. protection. Nord Stream 2’s owners had invested 5.8 …


    Trump knew Russia interfered into our election, but...……... The news reporters put Trump in position to say he believed Russia didn't try and influence our elections. He knew better. What was he to do with Putin sitting right next to him after Putin denied it, call him a liar to his face? At the time Trump was trying to play nice with Putin. He needed his and China's help to enforce sanctions on N. Korea to get them to give up their nuclear weapons. Calling him a liar to his face would do nothing to accomplish that.
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    Did Donald Trump Sign a $1.8 Billion Autism-Services Bill?
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    Claim: In September 2019, U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law a bill that provides $1.8 billion in funding for autism research and services.
    Claimed by: ABC News
    Fact check by Snopes: True

    He started child care funding for single mothers, Work and the Cost of Child Care | The White House
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    Feb 25, 2019 - Policies that reduce this cost of child care could bring more Americans into ... But by 1998, labor force participation among single mothers grew to 77 percent, ... In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding ... and Head Start and pre-school programs provide care for young children as well.

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    Jun 24, 2019 - The Labor Department released its proposal to create a new type of ... Federal Job-Training Programs 'Largely Ineffective,' Trump Advisers ...
     
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    When China threatened to cut off vital ingredients used in many of our life savings medicines if we didn't agree to their trade offer, Trump got Kodak Chemicals a $800 million dollar loan so they can make those ingredients here in America. Saying America should not be held hostage to any foreign nation for their life saving drugs. That also helped out Kodak and created over 500 new jobs.
     
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    i think we can call a winner in the repub party civil war. they are now (and have always been) the party of trump.
     
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    carried by whigs (conservatives) then and trumpists now.
     
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    "god emperor" is the acceptable title for the disgraced former president on his "the donald" reddit page. only trump fans are allowed to post.

    "i have article 2 that says i can do anything i want" trump (proving that high school civics is not required for a republican nomination)
     
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    No, he didn't try and over throw our democratic elections. He tried to hold them up until some states were investigated for voter fraud. He never asked anyone to break into the Capital and cause damage.

    1. www.newsweek.com › fact-check-did-trump-sayFact Check: Did Trump Say to 'Peacefully and Patriotically ...
      Jan 14, 2021 · The president did say that the crowd was going to march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol. After the attack, Trump said he does not condone violence.
      • Video Duration: 2 min
     
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    lolololol the media can't sell ads if they run "news" of normal people ("biden fans")at work. it takes q anutty trump fans attacking policemen to be news!

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    "FREEDOM!"
     
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    are you sure trump is a "conservative?"
     
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    Trump is like no Republican in modern history. Although Republicans have always been for creating jobs so Americans could help their selves and not depend so much on government. Trump knew to achieve it, some people do need limited government help.
     
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    It is called TLS - Trump Love Syndrome, it can be dangerous. Some people who suffered from TLS on Jan 6 broke into the Capitol.
     
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    Only because of the bias of the news media. I am willing to bet half the country can't tell us two good things Trump has done and I posted many of them with sources. Here is what Democrats know of what Trump has done.





    This is why...


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    The news media says Obama is one of the best ten Presidents of all time and I say he was one of the worst and his record proves it. But thank his good looks, sweet tone of his voice and a bias news media that only tells half the story that makes so many people think that. Obama screwed up big time all through his Presidency.
     
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    Trump bragged a lot. Many were locker room talk. If he had really grabbed a woman's crouch, that woman would have either come forward, or would be a millionaire right now. Sure, he had affairs with some prostitutes when his wife was pregnant. Probably because she was afraid to have sex that it might hurt the baby. But do you know Roosevelt and Ike both had long term affairs? Of course we all know Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton all three had affairs on their wives. We know women always accuse rich men of sexual assault. Not saying Trump didn't make unwanted advances on anyone, I'm sure he did. But I doubt no where near he is being accused of.

    I am sure Trump did a number of things he is accused of, but not nearly as much as he is accused of. Remember how NY was going to lock him up for tax evasion? They got one person for not reporting a financial gift Trump gave him legally. Everyone felt he cheated on his taxes because he didn't show them. He didn't do it because he didn't want to show he isn't as rich as he wants people to believe and how he used those tax loop holes to get out of paying a lot of taxes.

    I'm not really interested in what Trump did before becoming President and most people weren't either. He was very popular before running and he was a Democrat. People knew what he did, but still elected him President and he has done a hell of a lot of good in just four years, especially considering he spent so much time fighting that phony Russian collusion charge for most of his term. I'll stack Trump's 4 year record against Obama's 8 year record any day of the year.
     
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    the Jan 6 insurrectionists had TDS, Trump Deranged Supporter Syndrome
     

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