Does anyone know the meaning of "fascism?"

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    Too bad epidemiological federal bureaucrats can't think as critically as you.:roll:
     
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    Uh Huh...Can't debate...Gotta criticize.
     
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    Mussolini was a lefty. He just hated the ideology of the way-far-left and authoritarian lefty, the communist. Rather, Mussolini became a not-so-far-left-lefty who was also authoritarian.

    The actual facts are that fascists must be authoritarian (a refusal of inherent personal rights)...Fascists can be right-winged or left-winged.
     
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    No historian on the planet calls Mussolini a lefty. We should respect reality and not fabricate.
     
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    You're misinformed about this.
     
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    You need to start reading history about Mussolini, then.
     
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    I have. What are you refuting, using actual history?
     
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    Trump pressured Pence to eliminate the EC votes of 5 states. It's in the Eastman memo, which you won't read.
     
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    You stated that the VP is not an elected position. It is. Again, it's in the 12th Amendment. You should read that along with the Eastman memo. Notice how I'm the only one providing sources? You shouldn't tell people that they "can't debate" when you provide no sources of your own and you refuse to read the ones that your opponents provide.
     
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    Trump pressured Pence to nullify the EC vote in leu of a forensic recount of those 5 states' popular vote with the results of said forensic state recounts going to the proper presidential candidate.

    BTW, those forensic recounts were obstructed. I guess, some don't care all that much about whether an American presidential vote result represents the popular vote totals of the states involved.:roll:
     
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    Get it right. I stated that the American people don't vote for the VP when they vote for president.
     
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    Trump had already gotten recounts in at least two of those states. He didn't even try to go to court to get any others. I'm glad you finally admit that he tried to nullify the votes, however. I guess some don't care about whether an American presidential candidate tries to erase millions of votes in order to install himself as an unelected autocrat.
     
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    They vote for both. Read the 12th Amendment. And look more carefully at your ballot next time. You voted for both if you voted at all.
     
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    Those recounts weren't forensic recounts. In other words, there was no careful examination of said ballots for their authenticity.

    Besides, asking a state election official to verify the results of their state's election is like asking ICE to verify how many illegals have crossed into the US...Which is to say ICE has not clue how many illegals have crossed into the US due to the lack of Biden Administration policy on prosecuting illegal immigrants...Which is also to say that state election officials have no clue the results of their state elections due to pandemic voting rules which prevent the verification of ballots and the plethora of remote ballots the state election officials can't verify. Besides, the state election official wants to be reelected so as a survival measure they'll automatically say their elections were free from fraud so they can be reelected.
     
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    Trump never even tried to sue for this. He did, however, sue to try to get all of Pennsylvania's votes eliminated. He did pressure his VP to hand him the election. If you think "But I didn't get what I want" is an excuse for trying to overturn an election, then you are no centrist.
     
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    Oh, so if you are a dem, you wouldn't vote for Biden 'cause of Harris?:roflol:
     
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    Again. Your interpretation of Trump's motives are based on your hatred for Trump which is to say you have no clue about Trump's motives.

    EDIT: Besides, your post I quoted is a strawman.
     
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    Trump's motives are out in the open. He is not clever.
     
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    Fascism- the act of disagreeing with liberals on any topic
     
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    That is your definition and I, and all historians, would disagree.
     
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    Actually, the disagreeing with authoritarians is more correct...Which is ironic since all fascists are authoritarian.

    There are fascists on the right and the left. The politically elite are certainly fascists as is their lapdog the MSM.
     
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    My hatred for Trump is based on his actions. Like when he tried to steal the election.
     
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    So you are starting to recall what was on your ballot, I take it. You vote for them both. You remember that now?
     
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    That is a lie.
     
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    It is objectively true. Ignoring reality is a poor excuse for defending authoritarianism.
     

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