Should A President Remain In Office

Oh please. Now you're just deflecting.

Happy New Year, my friend!

 

~ Yes Happy 2021

 

LOL. You are coming along nicely. First you were in denial. Now you admit I was right but want more than one source.

 

Medical providers around the world were using Hydroxy as a treatment before Trump even said anything. Apparently they felt there was some promise in the treatment.

 

Here is just one example the doubt she sowed

"Asked by CNN's Dana Bash in a clip released Saturday whether she would get a vaccine that was approved and distributed before the election, Harris replied, "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us."
"I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump and it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he's talking about," she continued in the clip from an exclusive interview airing Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" at 9 a.m. ET. "I will not take his word for it."
CNN reported Thursday that Trump has pressured administration health officials to accelerate the vaccine's development in an effort to convince voters of an impending end to the pandemic threatening his reelection. A number of sources familiar with the internal workings told CNN the responsibility feels immense and the environment is akin to that of a pressure cooker.


When asked by Bash whether she thought that public health experts and scientists would get the last word on the efficacy of a vaccine, Harris predicted that they will not.
"If past is prologue that they will not, they'll be muzzled, they'll be suppressed, they will be sidelined," Harris said. "Because he's looking at an election coming up in less than 60 days and he's grasping to get whatever he can to pretend he has been a leader on this issue when he is not."
The administration has sought to counter concerns that politics will influence elements of the vaccine's development or distribution.

Can you cite them supporting Operation Warp speed and urging everyone to take the vaccines as soon as they are available? I do remember Biden saying that if any President had 200,000 to die on his watch they should resign.

 

How "serious" was he supposed to take it? Was he supposed to run around in a panic screaming the world is going to end. Experts at the time disagreed on how rapid it would spread and how severe it would be. FAUCI said mask were ineffective, and lots of experts at the time said the existing mask were ineffective. But part of OWS was better mask and Trump got those produced even though now the effectives of even those is questioned.

It is QUITE common to use common names for viruses such as the Spanish Flu, Ebola, Legionnaires Disease and on and on. Tell me did you turn racist and xenophobic against Chinese AMERICANS? How about Hispanics during the Spanish Flu? China the COUNTRY and it's GOVERNMENT bears blame for this and how they handled it and continue to cover it up.

 

It is incredible that you posted that and then doubled down instead of acknowledging they didn’t say what was previously asserted

“it would have to be a credible source of information”
“I would not trust Donald Trump” (because he is a liar)

Basically saying no one should believe the evicted con and to trust science

 

If he has actively encouraged it, yes.

 

South Korea STILL has total deaths around 6000, so does New Zealand. Both of these nations did nothing more than what they were told to by the scientists. Trump was told to do the exact same thing and ignored them utterly. He is directly responsible for about 700,000 deaths AND the loss of several trillion dollars suffered by the World Economy.

 

I think a good President should bring the best in his people. Biden has failed on that account as well.

 

Nobody could even come close to failing as badly as Trump did in this regard. Biden has actually done fairly well in this respect. Were it me I would still be doing widespread arrests and incarcerations which would cause much bad feeling, Biden has shown admirable restraint here.

 

True, Trump brings out the worst in everyone. Well, except for Kim. They were pretty chummy at one point.

In that respect they could not be more different. Trump is one of the most vindictive human beings to grace the planet.

I had better stop now or I'll be reminded of just how bad Trump was and completely recant...

 

The more salient question is when should a Representative or Senator be removed from office for malfeasance? IMO a good quarter to a third of the entire Republican Federal Elected Officials who have supported Trump are guilty of treason by their own admission. They should be in custody awaiting indictment not in the Hallowed Halls. There isn't any nicety of impeachment to be considered here, this is a matter for the courts at this juncture and we should demand that the law and the truth settle this matter now. The time for politics is past.

 

It wasn't my assertion. Now try to address what I actual said and posted, she sowed the seeds of doubt with her statements. And as I showed she planted the idea that the statements from the experts should be questioned because somehow Trump would make them lie for political reasons.

""If past is prologue that they will not, they'll be muzzled, they'll be suppressed, they will be sidelined," Harris said. "Because he's looking at an election coming up in less than 60 days and he's grasping to get whatever he can to pretend he has been a leader on this issue when he is not."
The administration has sought to counter concerns that politics will influence elements of the vaccine's development or distribution."

Can you cite them supporting Operation Warp speed and urging everyone to take the vaccines as soon as they are available? I do remember Biden saying that if any President had 200,000 to die on his watch they should resign.

 

No where did she indicate they would lie for trump. Here, I will quote her direct words again since you are inventing what she said: “it would have to be a credible source of information”
“I would not trust Donald Trump”

Please show where she said anything about medical experts being in doubt.

Again, that does not show them saying medical experts will lie but rather they will be suppressed as we saw numerous times during the failed trump administration. He even did it to the NWS for example.

Do you understand the difference between medical professionals lying and governmental experts being silenced or fired?

Democrats and independents have a much higher rate of vaccination than trumplicans so your belief that their skepticism of a known liar doesn’t hold water.

To the current COVID death rate, what do you believe Biden should have done that he didn’t?

 

You just quoted exactly what I said, she was sowing the seeds of doubt of anything coming out of the Trump administration. Now show me where she and Biden spoke in support.

 

It is idiotic to expect anyone to “end” a disease. The internet generation demands a perfect little life and a beautiful little snowflake that never melts.
And you wonder why imperfect humans fudge the stats.

We will all end up as food for some organism.
We should be thankful that we have conquered the worst of the diseases common in the 1700’s.

 

if they are playing it down and telling people to pack the churches? having huge rallies with maskless supporters?

the fact is, easier to control it early on, once it got out of control, it was all over

 

The trump administration sowed those seeds by firing anyone daring to stand against them to tell the truth, this could be seen across numerous federal agencies.

They did not have to speak in support of trump, he had nothing to do with the development of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine (warp speed didn’t impact either outside of financial incentives and grants once FDA approval occurred) — they both spoke to the efficacy of the vaccine and endorsement of the medical community. It was successful that it fast tracked approval and grant money as well has pre-planning distribution although that fell apart during the hyper partisan transition.

 

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. They blame Trump for over 200,000 deaths but won't blame themselves for even one.

 

LOL. And yet you guys are perfectly fine with 80,000 vaccinated people going to a football game, spreading Delta and Omicron everywhere and you wonder why the virus is surging. Duh, think about it for a minute.

 

vaccinated, yep, they are safer, to them, it really is like a common flu

the problem is, the unvaccinated go too.. but not really much you can do about that

with Omicron being less dangerous, think time to just open up, anyone that wanted the vaccine has had plenty of time to get it

 

As I thought you cannot show where they were encouraging people to get vaccinated as soon as possible that is was safe and they should not worry while I showed how Harris in particular was feeding their heads with doubts about it.

 

"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

I don’t understand what you are struggling to comprehend here. But feel free to applaud yourself and ignore the facts here — seems to be your MO.

 

Actually I need a source that agrees she said anything like what you claim. Others to prove the dems did it throughout their campaign would be a bonus for you. So far though you've been relying on others to supply your sources. Can you you not find them yourself? Are you in fact a robot?