"Jan. 6 was a dangerously close call"

"Jan. 6 was a dangerously close call. How Trump's plot nearly succeeded"

"Attempts by Trump and his followers to overturn the results of the 2020 election -- multi-dimensional efforts of which the assault on the Capitol building was only one element -- came dangerously close to succeeding."

"What if Pence had followed Trump’s order? What would have happened if he had brought the gavel down during the joint session on Jan. 6 and thrown out Biden’s electoral votes in the states Trump had contested? What if he had declared Trump the winner of those states?"

"Trump bluntly demanded that the Supreme Court intervene and save his presidency. In the end they unanimously rejected his final appeal."

"Judges, some of them conservative Republicans Trump had nominated, rejected multiple lawsuits aimed at overturning the elections. What if they had gone along with Trump and ruled in his favor as Trump clearly hoped they would?"

"What if Bill Barr had followed the president’s orders and mobilized the considerable resources of the Department of Justice to overturn the election? Barr had seemed willing to stand by the president, but in the end he publicly declaring there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud."

"There were many steps along the way where we were perilously close to a complete breakdown, a true constitutional crisis."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rio...-call-trumps-plot-succeeded/story?id=81858613

The whole scheme wasn't a shot in the dark, it was a strategdy, and if a few individuals had acted differently, events could have turned out differently

If Pence followed the gameplay laid out by Clark and not accept States' electoral votes, there would be no confirmation of a President, which is what the right wanted to accomplish that day, which raises the question what would have followed January 6th and January 20th?

 

It was a delay of the process. It would not necessarily have made Trump president. The process would have been delayed, investigated, and the Biden would have been president in the end. There never would have been so much doubt and distrust and our country would not be this divided.

 

Given the Trump track record with delaying, postponing, and appealing anything involving litigation, he could, and most certainly would have, done such far beyond the January 20th date his Presidency expired. Seeing he didn't win the majority of Americans' votes, I don't think this would have set well with the citizenry

 

Pence would have had to throw out the results of six States.

That's the only way Trump could have won.

Is such a thing had occurred the House would have voted to reject the results of the election. And then we would have had no president after January 21. The senior member of the Senate would have taken control until the electoral college was able to do its job.

The senior member of the Senate is a Democrat.

 

Another example of Trump being the worst moron genius the Left ever concocted Such a genius to attempt to do all these things but such a moron that he never succeeded in anything they accuse him of, hehe. TDS.

 

"TDS"? Again?
When did PF start getting so many Trevor Noah Fans?

 

I can't believe all these liberals having orgasms over Jan6. It's as if they have no other lives. What did they do before this?

 

Yeah... real dangerous.




You want to know what the Democrats and anti-Trumpers won't try to find out?

Why the doors were opened and the demonstrators were let in?
Who told the Capitol Police to stand down?
Why was the National Guard request denied? By who?
How many FBI agents were in the crowd? What were their orders?
Why has Ray Epps not been arrested? Does he have a relationship with the DOJ?
Why was Ashli Babbet shot, while standing next to other Capitol Police that did not deem her a threat?
How were they going to take over with no weapons?
Why was the ANTIFA agitator paid $70K for his video inside the Capitol that day? Why has he not been arrested as he was clearly caught on video pushing for violence?
Why does the U.S. Congress get to violate the 4th Amendment and seize private information without probable cause or a judicial review?

 

It never came close to Pence agreeing with the legal argument being made he rejected it out of hand and you do know Democrats in 2017 and 2018 challenged electors, this would not have been the first time.

 

The hypothetical situation you described could not have happened. Pence doing anything other than certifying the states' election board counts would have been dereliction of duty. The oath he took required him to complete the certification which is why he told Trump that he couldn't do it.

And, that also begs the question "Why did Trump supporters turn on Pence?" Trump is the one that put the target on his back and lied to them about his position and Pence is the one that did his job. He didn't certify the counts to be a "p****" as Trump had called him or "being a coward". I'm not a fan of Pence but I admire that he had the courage to do what he did in the face of all kinds of verbal abuse and threats. I also admired that he never badmouthed Trump and he and his wife were gracious enough to attend Biden's and Harris' Inauguration. I don't know much about him politically, but he is definitely someone I have no hesitation in saying that I can respect and I don't look up to other human beings so that's a big statement coming from me.

Had I been a Trump supporter and learned that he absolutely KNEW that Pence couldn't legally stop the certification and he said that he could at that rally, I would have turned my back on him forever. It's one thing to be a sore loser. It's another to send thousands of angry people to seek him out based on a total lie. I truly don't understand how any of them can defend that.

 

No such thing ever happened. If you thought a few hundred rioters could overturn the election, it doesn't mean everyone else will buy into it.
Its the most ridiculous claim to date taking advantage of those who have no clue how the government works and depending on those to spread more fake information

Then every WH lawyer would have walked out of the WH and the entire DOJ would have abandoned Pence. It wouldn't change anything, Trump still wouldn't be president, and Pence would have been abandoned by every party member on both sides of the isle

There is no such thing as a federal judge overturning a presidential election. More exaggerations.

More fake media tripe. He was asked to review evidence of a fraudulent election. He said no fraud existed. He was never ordered to do anything
More exaggerations

 

Start here:

https://www.google.com/

 

Remember this?

President Joe Biden and Attorney General Merrick Garland outlined the administration’s gun crime prevention strategy on June 23. During the speech, Biden argued that there has always been a 2nd amendment limit on what firearms can be purchased, and "if you wanted to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.'

 

That’s the way events would unfold on paper, but in reality hard to see Trump walking away two weeks later after spending all that time and effort to maintain his power

 

So you are affirming that “attempting to do all these things” solely aimed at maintaining power is copacetic regardless of its eff3cts on the country

 

Nothing one couldn’t hear by turning on AM radio anytime of the day, innuendo lacking proof

 

In other words you have nothing. You have no clue who Ray Epps is. Yet, you have an hardened opinion on a topic where you are uninformed. Typical Leftist.

 

Luckily, but it was no guarantee the morning of January 6th, even Trump was still pressuring him at his morning rally, and yes, Democrats challenged electors previously as did Republicans, and in all those cases the acting VP dismissed such, plus keep in mind in none of those incorporated an orchestrated well designed plan aimed at taking advantage of those rejections for further ends

 

who exactly would keep him "in power"?

the 52nd Airborn? Special Forces?

there is no legal way he could have held power, unless the Electoral College voted for him and Congress certified his win.

 

Didn’t have to buy into, only Pence did by not recognizing the electoral vote, and with no Congrssional comfirmation of the vote Biden couldn’t Constitutionally take office. Plus the last thing Trump carried about was lawyers walking off, his loyalists would stay and the others quickly replaced

Judges could invalidate the State vote, why did you think Sidney and Rudi were so busy filing suits in as many States as they could

 

Who was going to remove him?

And that is the point, if the Electoral College vote wasn’t accepted Congress couldn’t certify Biden’s election, which Trump saw as keeping him President

 

The so called "opened doors"

Cops so called "standing down"

These fascists who attacked the Capitol were told to go fight like hell, stop that so called steal or else lose their country, and they get it all back through a trial by combat.
Why are those ringleaders not locked up yet, that's the big question!

 

Trump's coup would have led to the Senior Member of the Senate being interim President until Congress solved the crisis.

He was and still is a Democrat.

 

Is this yet another opinion piece cut and pasted from a "news" site?

Can you people come up with opinions on your own, or do you have to copy and paste.

Never mind the double standards on this forum with copyright violations.

What was quoted is not even a news article but an opinion piece.

Oh no, "danger".

It used to be that most nutjob conspiracy theorists were on the Right. Today that no longer seems to be true. The mainstream news is pushing hyperbolic interpretations of stories (that's a mild way of putting it) and perpetuating conspiracy theories, and the while complaining of "misinformation" even though they are the ones who are doing it.

 

if the doors were open, why did the terrorists have to smash windows and try to force their way past police to get in?