Crisis In Kazakhstan

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are violent protests going on in the largest and most prosperous Central Asian State, but what did Kazakhstan expect after allowing 16,000 NGO's to operate in their country? The most powerful are those associated with Soros' Open Society Foundation of course, since their calling card for protests has always been to fight corruption - which means taking the money away from some, and putting it into the hands of the ones aligned with the advocates of the liberal One World Government.

    How stupid of Kazakhstan not to notice what these NGO's have done in other natons, but then again China was stupid too for allowing the NGO's to remain after the protests in Hong Kong about a decade ago, so that they ended up with the destruction of the most recent ones.

    Turkey is also involved because of its desire to create the Great Turan, which would be an economic unity of all the Turkic people, and a military that would rival China's. No doubt what these protests will do is turn the most prosperous nation in the Central Asian States into another Ukraine.


    On January 5, the protests continued and by the afternoon had spread to other cities of Kazakhstan, where local authorities are unable to effectively resist the protesters. Regardless of further developments, Kazakhstan will never be the same. The country will probably face a social collapse and even a Ukrainian scenario for its economy. The beneficiaries are obviously global financial elites and the West, led by the United States.

    https://southfront.org/crisis-in-kazakhstan/
     
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    Maybe joe Biden’s amazing leadership skills can save them
     
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    Sleepy Joe lives in another time zone far, far away from Kazakhstan. He probably thinks it's where Munchkins live.
     
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    Yanunkovich will have "roommates "?:)
     
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    And we should care why?
     
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    The funniest sarcastic comment I've heard in a while.
     
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    If that's what it takes to keep American soldiers home and safe, I'll take that !!!
     
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    This is from RT:

    Footage of protests in Kazakhstan has spread all over the world. Demonstrators are forcing their way into public buildings, driving away military vehicles, and disarming soldiers. They have set on fire the mayor’s office in Almaty, the country’s largest city and second capital, which has now turned into the epicenter of the protest movement.

    The unrest, however, appears to be mostly spontaneous and uncontrolled. It seems there are no leaders to organize the crowds, nor has any political party spearheaded the protest movement yet. The government simply does not know who to negotiate with, while the demonstrators are gaining control of many of Kazakhstan’s public buildings and storming and destroying the offices of the Nu Otan ruling political party and of national television channels.

    Looks an awful lot like the Maidan in Ukraine. Oh well, I did hear that 2022 will be the year of wars. These protests did start early though, since the Western instigators usually wait until Putin is at the Olympics, as he was when Georgia attacked S. Ossetia and when they overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine.
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    Because it's Russia's ally and God' knows who might be fostering a revolution.
     
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    This is from RT:

    The unrest, however, appears to be mostly spontaneous and uncontrolled. It seems there are no leaders to organize the crowds, nor has any political party spearheaded the protest movement yet. The government simply does not know who to negotiate with, while the demonstrators are gaining control of many of Kazakhstan’s public buildings and storming and destroying the offices of the Nu Otan ruling political party and of national television channels.


    Looks like a spontaneous and organic rebellion against oppression.

    Seems to happen a lot these days in former Soviet states. Maybe they should respect their people more.
     
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    That is the RT analysis, and yet Kazakhstan is saying differently. They have appealed to the CSTO for help and said that the situation is an invasion of Gangs trained from abroad. The Collective Security Treaty Organization is a Russian-led military bloc, and its soldiers are now engaged in fierce street battles with armed marauders.

    I don't doubt that the nationalists in Ukraine are involved since they were involved in the plot to overthrow Lukashenko which backfired, as well as Turkey, since it considers all the Turkish people as being part of the Great Turan.

    The Great Turan is a movement started by Turkey to restore the power of the Ottomans. They want to overthrow the American dollar as a universal currency and create their own currency as well as their own army - which would equal or be more than that of China.

    Anyway unlike Ukraine which is predominantly Russian Orthodox Christians, Kazachstan is a multi ethnic nation and predominately Sunni Muslim, so there might be Turkoman terrorists involved. As for the Russians there, they are around 6% and have been told to gather food and remain in their homes.
     
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    RT says this is an organic, unorganized, unlead popular reaction.

    If they say it I believe it.
     
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    I never expected you to trust RT as a source.
     
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    Dozens of protesters in Kazakhstan killed, local police say

    Almaty law enforcement said that protesters who had tried to storm government and police buildings overnight had been “eliminated.” Some Russian troops have already arrived in the Central Asian country, whose beleaguered leader called on a Moscow-led military alliance to help control anti-government demonstrations.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...Q.FuRYud12mIagc5gP4cUKgS6EWSy5q5fmRssSHJE0hdM
     
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    Ah... 'gange from abroad.'
    Why am I not surprised... it's Jeanette again.
    Putin's mouthpiece.

    ps this is a paid comment from the State Dept USA, despite me living in outback Australia.
     
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    You believe RT? Since when? :lol:

    May be because there are US-Russia talks soon?
     
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    10% of the time they get it right.
     
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    In Kazakhstan, it can be considered that everything is over.
    The attempt to make a color revolution has failed.
    The USA lost again as well as in Belarus.
    And referring to the experience of Belarus, we can assume the fact that now Russia's influence on Kazakhstan will grow many times over.
    Look at Belarus. Before the attempt at the color revolution, Lukashenka was not ready for closer rapprochement with Russia, but after that he is not only ready, but he himself hastens to sign an agreement on closer relations. Not only does he not object, but also asks to place Russian nuclear weapons on its territory.
    The same thing, I think, will happen in Kazakhstan. And besides this, I am sure that all the republics of Central Asia will change their policies towards maximum rapprochement with Russia.
    And this is an important step towards the revival of the USSR.
     
  19. Jeannette

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    There's not going to be a revival of the USSR since it was a communist atheist state that was imposed on others. But you're right, this will bring Kazachstan closer to Russia, the way the attempted overthrow of Lukashenko in Belarus did.

    Everything we do backfires as it should, because it's not Russia that's the predator that's trying to split up other nations and overthrow governments, it's Washington.

    Two police officers were beheaded which means Islamic extremists are involved, which would explain why ISIS leaders were being brought on American helicopters to Afghanistan from Syria a few years back. It was suspected at the time, that it was done so they could infiltrate the Central Asian states on Russia's southern flank.

    Anyway the difference with this attempted overthrow and what happened in Maidan is that Yanukovich refused to give his police orders to shoot back at the protesters - even though the so called 'non violent' protesters were throwing Molotov cocktails at them and attacking them.

    This lack of action on Yanukovich's part infuriated Vladimir Putin and he feels he will have to answer for it someday. Had Yanukovich had the courage to act more decisively, thousands of lives would not have been lost in the ensuing wars, and Ukraine wouldn't be in the mess it is in today. And yet Putin did stay up all night to save Yanukovich's life.

    Yanukovich folly was that he believed he could negotiate a peaceful transition which he did with the EU and the rebels. But then when he went back to Kiev he was immediately threatened with his life.

    Motto: Never negotiate with predators, all they know and respect is force.
     
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    Wrong. It's Russia that is the predator.


    That's why we should station long range offensive missiles in Poland and Romania.
     
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    He probably doesn't even know it's happening. His staff treats him like a mushroom....:lol:
     
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    I agree. Authoritarian governments are stupid to allow Soros linked organizations to operate in their borders.
     
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    Munchkins? Those are little people and stupid Xoe the pedo loves sniffing himself a bunch of little peoples.

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    On February 5, 1997, George Kennan, an American diplomat and author of several Cold War concepts, including the idea of "containment" of the Soviet Union, prophetically warned America in the pages of the New York Times about the dangers of NATO expansion policy - "NATO expansion will be the most fatal a mistake of American policy for the entire period after the end of the Cold War ... It can be expected that this decision will strengthen nationalist, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in the Russian public space and negatively affect the development of democracy in Russia, revive the atmosphere of the Cold War in relations between East and West and direct Russian foreign policy in a direction we don't like at all. "
    Recently, all the cards in relations between Russia and the West have been laid out on the table. True, to a greater extent, perhaps, here we should talk about Russia and the United States, since the “rest” of the West will behave towards Moscow in exactly the way that Washington will demand of this “rest” of the West. Now the world has entered a rare phase of suspense and uncertainty.
     

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