Biden questions if midterm elections will be "legit"

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    It's not feigned outrage, it's actual outrage. Don't pretend to tell me what I'm upset or not upset about. Thank you in advance. And as for why I'm outraged, it's very simple. The 'legitimacy' of elections seems to stem now to whether or not one side wins. Indeed, if democrats actually perform better than expected in this year's mid-terms, let's say they hold the House, I'd love to ask Biden if it's considered legitimate now.

    After lecturing Trump on election integrity(rightly), the democrats should not under any consideration even utter the words Biden uttered.

    Yet he uttered them, these words should be more angering to you as the democrats claimed to be the party defending our democracy. By their own admission, they're doing a shitty job.
     
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    No election is legit if the lines are soo long that people are forced to go home.
     
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    AN, the Republican state houses are legitimately usurping democracy. Can you honestly say that you think that is it OK for one state official to have the right to declare any vote, or even an entire election for the person of their choice, unilaterally ? Hell we just found out yesterday that some of these forged EC documents that were sent to the National Archive were actually signed by members of the republican state houses, and came from their official committees. Really, Joe Biden is the problem now ?

    You're OK with state legislatures setting a limit on the number of voting machines at any one precinct ? Gee I wonder who those urban areas usually vote for. I know, lets make their waits so long that they just decide not to vote. While in the suburbs they can walk in and vote in 30 seconds......I wonder who wins the suburbs.

    But while were at it, and they want to stop mail in voting, let's make sure we stop the mail in voting for the Armed forces......you're OK with that right. I mean they are using mail in ballots right ?

    Well YOU may not think so, but it was the right in this country that did just that this year. They wanted to overturn the results because they didn't like them. The right made the claims that the election was fraudulent and Donald Trump said exactly that, but when Biden points out that their are new laws being enacted to help that, he is the bad guy.
     
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    How would they be "forced" to go home?
     
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    Quotes please, lest ur making it up.
     
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    What was there to **** up? Either the elections are secure and Biden is throwing a fit over nothing or you were incorrect about your initial assessments. So which is it?
     
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    Let me sum up simply: In the 2020 elections, we were told the most people voted EVER. Not only this, but the Democratic nominee(Joe Biden) got 80 million of said votes. We were also told it was the most secure election in American History. Those were their words then, I'm going to hold them to them now. Especially since these so-called schemes were attempted in said most secure election in American History.

    If as a Democratic voter you believe the spew coming from your party with regard to the so-called voting purge, then you have to discredit what was said(and is being continually said, sickening as somehow to support of the argument that's being made now) back then. I'm not going to do that for the emperor of no clothes. (As I said, worst president in a century. Worse than Obama, Trump, Bush, Clinton, Bush's father, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, etc.) All of them have more accomplishments and political acumen than the jackass sitting in the WH.

    The jackass and his party is gaslighting the American voting public(which means both you and I.) They're gaslighting us for subservience, and now they're gas lighting us for votes. It's King George-esque ignorance of the voting public, and now he's treating the press worse than Trump did.

    He's committing worse abuses than Trump, and getting a pass. Why?
     
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    I would thing a better rhetorical technique for a feeble old man would be to speak in a forceful manner to show vigor as opposed to whispering. His advisors should tell him to sound off like he's got a pair.
     
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    Who wants to stop mail in voting? Specifics please.
     
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    No election is legitimate if we can prove the people voting are legally allowed to vote.
     
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    Okay, as a teacher lemme say dis about dat: About the absolute WORST thing a teacher should do is yell at the kids or even use a loud voice - even when they deserve to be yelled at. Sometimes ESPECIALLY then. I'll tell you something that happens, the louder YOU talk, then the louder THEY talk, then the louder YOU talkback, and on and on and on ... And I learned that as a student-teacher. One of the things that's part of training (in California at least) is that student teachers had to go to schools and observe other teachers in action. When it was my turn, I went to a jr. high and the principal there said, "Wolfe - I'm gonna have you observe my three best teachers, two teachers who use unusual methods - they think outside the box - and my worst teacher. I think you'll figure out which is which and you'll learn from all of them." Now, I didn't think I could possibly learn from the worst teacher there but darn it he was right, I actually learned the most from that worst teacher who was screaming at her kids. I learned from her what NOT to do and that's the lesson that stuck with me more than anything else.

    And yeah, I learned to speak softly because then the kids become quieter themselves. It's strange but true. I raise my voice so rarely that the last time I did - and it was to a kid five years ago who was about to pour grape juice and glitter into a kid's hair - that the entire class jumped back in their seats and were silent for fifteen minutes.

    On the other hand, it's supposed to be something of a constant - and we're talking speaking to children. Biden is bouncing back and forth on this going from loud to actual whispering - I doubt the kids could hear me if I went full whisper here - and on people who are paid to listen to what Brandon says and report it. He shouldn't HAVE to use lo-level Jedi mind-tricks on a press that doesn't have to be paid to tell the world to vote Dem; people who sold out to the DNC decades ago.
     
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    Thanks for the insight. And you’re right, Brandon isn’t talking to inattentive chattering kids, he’s speaking to professional reporters who have to report to the world what he says. Brandon doesn’t need theatrics.
     
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    You know it's even more hilarious in comical seeing folks like you make excuses for someone who's doing the very same thing you accused Donald Trump of doing which is to say casting doubt on the integrity of the election process.

    Suddenly you don't have a problem with that fascinating...

    By golly the next thing you know those pesky Biden supporters will be storming the capital or something.

    After all his careless words are encouraging such activities.
     
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    Oh FFS.....

    These are 2 COMPLETELY separate issues

    Suppressing the vote legislatively is what the right is doing. Read the Brennan Centers report. They are selectively suppressing votes from one party. That is COMPLETELY separate from the rights claims of voter fraud. I, and most on the left, dont believe their was any voter fraud because their is literally no proof of it. The accusation was made from whole cloth to excuse the loss, and to this day their is literally no proof

    Now please explain how the voting rights bill "reduces the integrity of our elections".....[/QUOTE]

    The federal government desires to usurp State's rights to administer elections because they want to reduce states abilities to mandate voter ID laws, put safe guards in place to uphold integrity through mail in balloting, among others. The fed doesn't like states safeguarding elections, so they want to remove their ability to do so.
     
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    Very simple solution to all this, no matter if you're right or left

    If you think your vote is being being suppressed, unsuppress it. Get out, take the trouble, do whatever's required, vote
    And if you think the lines are too long, go early. You can take your OWN water, so vote

    Note who gave you trouble and kick the bastards to the curb, but remember you have to VOTE to do that

    The solution to voting fraud and voting integrity is just the same

    VOTE
     
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    no, it will inform the public once again of democrat's hypocrisy and double standard and that more secure elections are necessary
     
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    Oh FFS.....

    These are 2 COMPLETELY separate issues

    Suppressing the vote legislatively is what the right is doing. Read the Brennan Centers report. They are selectively suppressing votes from one party. That is COMPLETELY separate from the rights claims of voter fraud. I, and most on the left, dont believe their was any voter fraud because their is literally no proof of it. The accusation was made from whole cloth to excuse the loss, and to this day their is literally no proof

    Now please explain how the voting rights bill "reduces the integrity of our elections".....[/QUOTE]
    let me correct t that for you all republicans are doing is suppressing illegal votes and cheating
    but you don't want that do you? because illegal votes and cheating is how most democrats win
     
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    Sure thing. Keep thinking that’s why an unelectable turd lost. Run him again. Get same result
     
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    Can't believe no one has posted this yet:

     
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    but those very people will stand in line overnight for concert tickets or the new I Phones
     
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    Run Bidet again I dare you!
     
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    Very simple solution to all this, no matter if you're right or left

    If you think your vote is being being suppressed, unsuppress it. Get out, take the trouble, do whatever's required, vote. If you're old find your ID, get your birth certificate. Vote.
    And if you think the lines are too long, go early. You can take your OWN water, so vote
    Note who gave you trouble and kick the bastards to the curb, but remember you have to VOTE to do that

    The solution to voting fraud and voting integrity is just the same

    VOTE

    IMO voting should be compulsory. No more bs about turnout. Vote or Die (well, pay a small fine)
     
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    Like $1,000 and a Year's incarceration and your children taken away after forcible vaccination?

    What other authoritarian tendencies do you harbor?
     
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    He would beat Trump. I have faith though and gat Republicans really don’t want Trump again. So irrelevant opinions.
     

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