Russia launches attacks on Ukraine

Well, here it is, the attack as begun

Putin is a thug, and no one should praising him.

Especially former presidents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/23/russia-ukraine-updates/

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that the Kremlin had decided to carry out a “special military operation” in Ukraine.

“The situation requires us to take decisive, swift action,” he said in an early morning speech, adding that Moscow would carry out the “demilitarization and denazification” of Ukraine and end eight years of war in eastern Ukraine, where Kyiv government forces have been fighting Russian-backed separatists.

Explosions could be heard in Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, and Kharkiv, in the country’s northeast. A senior Ukrainian official said that there were explosions at Kyiv’s Boryspil airport. Putin told Ukrainians to give up their weapons and to return home.

 

We are living in an extremely dark historical moment.

All my prayers are with the Ukrainian people.

I hope that the Ukrainian forces will be able to repel the invader.

Putin will have to pay sooner or later for this infamy.

 

This would never have occurred under Trump.

 

Why do you think that?

 

So now, fabricated charges of genocide, have made it a necessity for Russia--- not the U. N.-- to "act swiftly," in a blitzkrieg, across all of Ukraine; no one is fooled by this, who isn't a Russian, limited to it's country's propaganda, or a person who wants to be fooled.

I'm sure that Putin has been over this, again & again, in his mind, not to mention his real-life practices, in other nations. I wonder how long it's been that the ground has been frozen solid enough, for his attack (Russian tanks get stuck, if it's too muddy), and if he has actually put off this assault, longer than absolutely necessary-- Ukraine is a much bigger swathe of land, than anything he's tried to gobble up, so far. Any, tiny, bit of a case of nerves, there, Vlad?

Not that I think that Russian troops can't overwhelm the Ukranians, but I would be surprised if Putin were to repeat G.W. Bush's "mission accomplished," blunder.

This will now play out on the world stage, and it WILL be a struggle of historic proportions-- but not a military one. Putin has pushed the Democratic nations of the world, into a position of Put up, or Shut up. Again, though-- not with their militaries, I don't think, which Putin, himself, has admitted, that NATO's forces are more than a match for his own, conventional, forces. But then he has gone right into talking about his nuclear arsenal, to be sure that no one misses his implication. He may be very cagey, & clever, but Putin is also, at least a bit, out of his mind.


I have faith that the free nations of the world, with America's guidance, under President Biden, will, ultimately triumph, though this will take time, involve difficulties for us all, and require our greatest unity, at a time when democratic forces had been at their most scattered. My faith, then, is not a strictly calculated conclusion. There will be too many unknowns, which have yet appear-- for Putin, as well.


Aside from considerations over energy prices, fuel shortages, cyber- attacks, stock market fluctuations, and the like, I think it might be a good way to foster our own humanity, and it certainly couldn't hurt the chances of Ukraine's people, if we each spend a few moments, also considering what those civilians are now facing, and about to face, while we offer the inner intention, of our support.

 

You think Putin or even Xi would take a chance and test a wild card like Trump?

 

Timing was well planned, right as economies all over are suffering from inflation and high energy prices and overall turmoil. Very reminiscent of Hitlers timing during the Great Depression.

Seriously, whoever the Chinese person is who went “oops!” on Covid, that’s been extraordinarily convenient for setting up everything we are witnessing today. The winners of that are:

1) US Democratic Party
2) China
3) Russia

Match made in heaven

 

I didn't ask you what I think. I asked you why you think your statement is true?

 

Both incursions by Russia occurred under Obama and Biden. Putin knows what Biden is capable, which isn't much.

 

Excellent post. This all seems so orchestrated.

 

Looks like Russia is bringing out the Big Stuff to bomb the crap out of The Ukraine

 

Prayers for the people of Ukraine. Putin is a despot and when a despot senses weakness they strike.

 

Afghanistan 2.0. Did we give Russia some nice new military equipment as well?

 

Why do you have this faith? The "free nations of the world" are standing around with their hands in their pockets. Biden went to bed. Nobody is "united" with Ukraine. The whole world has left them to twist in the wind.

 

I suspect it will not be long before we see photos of pallets of Javelins and Stingers in Russian possession.

 

Because he is Irrational thinker.
Can you think of something less rational?

 

Mostly just peace deals and little rocket man stops lobbing rockets under Trump. Under Obama and now Biden, we get wars. The results are one good reason. The other is that Trump has better instincts.

 

Russia launches attacks on Ukraine



But wait. Joe Biden said that he intimidated Putin so effectively they he would back off.

 

Because Trump was predictably unpredictable. Putin didn’t want to risk it.

 

Huh?

 

Point #1: It sounds as if you are praising Putin; which would not be all that unusual, amidst the bizarre universe in which we currently live, where our former President, and former Sect'y of State, are also fawning, over Putin's disregard for international law, and flouting of accepted norms (despite Republicans' historic image, & reputation, as being defenders of authority, law & order, & the status quo).

Point #2: But how does that equate to your seeming to "match up," Russia, with the U.S. Democratic Party? The Democrats have been condemning Putin, all along. The push for sanctions, came from Democrats. The push for strengthening those sanctions, are coming from Democrats. If (and when) it comes to international boycotts, against Russia, those calls will come from Democrats. Meanwhile, the most popular talking head on cable, FOX NEWS' Tucker Carlson, is asking, "What's so bad about Russia?"Did Putin ship your job overseas...etc?

I'm not trying to argue with you, over whether or not, Putin is a good guy. I'm just asking how you justify, in your mind, lavishing compliments on Putin, reflecting a strong current, in today's Republican Party, while simultaneously acting as if it is Democrats who are his buddies-- not the U.S. Republican Party.

Are you Russian?


Point #3: "Very reminiscent of Hitlers timing during the Great Depression."

And look how well that worked out.

 

Your comments do not reflect reality. Luckily, though, the only ones who might be so ignorant of the approach that we have been taking, are those who already have a counter- factual orientation, who will cling to as baseless a narrative as you seem to be proposing, so that, realizing it's pointlessness, I am not going to waste time, explaining what has been all over the news, for the last couple of weeks, as if you had just missed it.

Give me a tangible example, of what you are suggesting, as if I could not guess.

Here, I will save us some time, by eliminating your impractical ideas.
1) NATO troops defend Ukraine:
A. Ukraine not in NATO.
B. U.S. does not command NATO.
C. If most NATO countries are against Ukraine even joining, at this point, what's the odds that they would be on favor of fighting a major war, for Ukraine?
D. Putin has specifically threatened using nuclear weapons, if NATO got militarily involved.

2) U.S. Troops go into Ukraine:
A. The U.S population does not, and would not, support a war, fought for Ukraine.
B. The U.S. Congress-- most definitely including its Republican members-- would not authorize a war with Russia, over Ukrane.
C. President Biden, even if he wanted to, does not have the authority to declare war, or engage our forces in a war, based on his own judgement.



So, now that those two, utterly bogus suggestions are out of the way--
what have you got?

 

Ok then, why DIDN'T it happen under President Trump? (serious answers only please)

 

We’ll let’s see what the ol putz biden does here…

 

Ahhh, yes, the sanctions will certainly stop the invasion, won't they?

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