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Finland says debate on NATO membership 'will change' after Russian invasion

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Durandal, Feb 25, 2022.

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Poland isn't Russia. Neither are the Baltic nations.
     
    yardmeat, Feb 25, 2022
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Welp, looks like Putin is hell-bent on starting World War III and he has allies here in the US defending him for doing so. ****.
     
    yardmeat, Feb 25, 2022
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  3. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah. Hitler had a lot of allies in the US when he got started on his war of conquest as well. History is repeating itself.
     
    Durandal, Feb 25, 2022
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    Poland was controlled by the U.S.S.R. The Baltic nations were part of the U.S.S.R.
     
    Dayton3, Feb 25, 2022
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  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What the hell is wrong with you? The USSR having controlled those countries for a time does not make them part of Russia.
     
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    Durandal, Feb 25, 2022
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    The USSR was disolved, those are independent nations free to do as they like
     
    Badaboom, Feb 25, 2022
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  7. yardmeat

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    Was. Past tense.
     
    yardmeat, Feb 25, 2022
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    Do countries not have the ability to protect it's borders from missile attacks?

    Does Russia not have defense systems on it's border?

    Hurting Putin's feelings is not our concern. He should be asking himself WHY do these countries feel that they need to defend from us. It is 100% his problem.

    Does Putin consider WHY other nations don't trust him? Again, that is his problem. Not others.
     
    jcarlilesiu, Feb 25, 2022
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    A - ****ing - men!
     
    yardmeat, Feb 25, 2022
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    By the end of this weekend, Russia will have taken the capital of Ukraine. Zelenskyy will have been captured or have fled the country. Ukraine will fall. Eastern Ukraine will be added to Russia via annexation. The Russians will install a puppet Government that will oversee Ukraine join the Russian Commonwealth. The question then is whether they end there or push further west.

    China, Russia, North Korea and Iran are working to form a new world order. One in which the US, European Union, Canada, Australia and other current world powers play minor rolls on the world stage. Picture this. Russia engages NATO. At the same time China invades Tiawan, North Korea invades South Korea and Iran invades Iraq. That nightmare scenario could happen at any time.
     
    rkhames, Feb 25, 2022
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    We shall see.
     
    Durandal, Feb 25, 2022
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    Saying "Russia deserves no security" is why we have a war going on right now. Sorry but you can't have a stable international order if you want to keep certain countries destabilized. And for what? What is the reason why "Russia deserves no security?"
     
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    NATO was never a threat to Russian security, and Russia has attacked to further their expansionism, not security. Russia knowing that there was a faction in the west that would blindly swallow their propaganda is why we have a war going on right now.
     
    yardmeat, Feb 25, 2022
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    If you look at the map you will see how little Russia has conquered of the Ukraine, that is a huge place. Loosing the capital does not mean end of the fight. It would be just a symbolic victory.
    Going for NATO countries not a good idea. Russia would face a real air force, with equal and superior planes, would face not T64, but Leo2 or M1 and other very nasty smaller tanks, actual tank killers.
    That would be a very stupid move.
    Finland has its own experience with Russia/USSR, the winter war.

    What will Putin do, if Finland and Sweden become NATO members, attack them, with the might of NATO behind them?
    Really
    Dotard split the NATO and Putler united it with his Ukraine attack, more than it has been since the end of the Cold War.
    Putler showed nations like Germany, that they actual need a real Army and not a token. Not 300 Leo2 but 500 or a thousand again, not 195.000 troops but 300.000 again. The discussion in Germany is on, even politicos and parties who were against a increase are changing their mind.

    I think Putin made a big mistake. He did what ever it takes to split NATO and did that rather well. But with this move, he erased all those gains and will isolate his country for many years, ruin its economy.
    For what?

    The Ukraine ? Being in a nasty little shiiit war, like US and GB in Iraq for a long time.

    I do not understand it.
     
    gnoib, Feb 25, 2022
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    Yep. Russia is having a hard enough time with Ukraine's technically inferior armed forces. NATO forces would wipe the floor with them.
     
    Durandal, Feb 25, 2022
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    As a comment, that didn't really make any sense.

    Putin has no reason to be threatened by NATO, an anti-Russian military coalition?

    There is a faction in the West that swallows Russian propaganda? And that caused the war?
     
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    Lil Mike, Feb 25, 2022
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    The bolded is misinformation.
     
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  18. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you say so, comrade.
     
    Durandal, Feb 25, 2022
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    Like the BLM rioters in the summer of 2020??
     
    cabse5, Feb 25, 2022
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    cabse5 Banned

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    I try to treat all countries equally. Not sure this is your MO.
     
    cabse5, Feb 25, 2022
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    Oh a deflection, how cute. Go away now.
     
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    Pledging to lend support to defeat Russia is an aggressive move.
     
    cabse5, Feb 25, 2022
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    cabse5 Banned

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    No infer. Somebody posted something and I inferred something from what was posted. Not implying anything, er, you're implying something.:roll:
     
    cabse5, Feb 25, 2022
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    Keep trolling, maybe someone will bite, but it won’t be me.
     
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    cabse5 Banned

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    Not before I point out your post was completely wrong.
    It seems, even you agree your post was wrong.
     
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