THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Q1 - What was the name of the agreement reached between Russia and Ukraine where Ukrain would relinquish
    its nuclear weapons and Russia would agree not to invade?
    Q2 - how many Russians living in Ukraine have been killed by the Russians?
    Q3 - why are Russians indiscriminately shelling cities rather than taking on the Ukrainian military?
    Q4 - did YOU believe Putin when he said he wouldn't invade Ukraine - most of his conscripts did
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that explains the Germans in Operation Barbarossa. They killed tens of millions of Russians because
    they were firing on German forces.
    Strange that Russians are using lethal force and live ammunition in a 'military exercise.'
    Strange that Russian servicemen are in Ukraine when Putin and his Internet trolls said RUSSIA WILL NOT INVADE UKRAINE.
     
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    Nice photos. And the sign of Zorro is clearly visible. Just like Zorro fought evil, and Russia fights evil. This is symbolic.
     
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    You advise the Russians to do the same as the US military did in Afghanistan - they pulled out their torn asses?
    But pulling out torn asses is customary for Americans (Vietnam, Cambodia ... Somalia, Iran .... Afghanistan). Russians don't know how to lose. Even from Afghanistan, the Russians marched and left to applause, and the Najibullah regime held out in Afghanistan after the Russians left for another three years. So your advice is not acceptable. You are used to running away clinging to the landing gear of aircraft. The Russians are fine. The operation is going according to plan. A little ahead of schedule. But in general, everything is good.
     
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    Ahahaha... As for you, you are an unusual comedian.
     
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    So the Russians just needed a place to go and die? Yes, it seems to be working pretty well. I would never presume to advise the Russians. Their superior equipment and training will doubtless carry the day.
     
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    Here's what Ukraine can do. Take back Crimea and the Donbass. Then push into Western Russia and save those Ukrainians
    who have faced persecution and genocide, and suffer under Fascism. It's easy now - Russia is in retreat and though not a
    member of NATO, Ukraine has the full support of Europe and America, if not the world. Russia will find it hard to fight back as
    its second world economy is about to go third world.
     
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    Putin beaten by a comedian.
    Now that's funny,
     
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    'Next phase of operation' - retreating home to a wrecked, fascist state where you can't talk about the
    war, sorry, 'military exercises' without getting 15 years jail. At least you won't need those worthless
    rubles in jail.
    Sorry but I can't help laughing at all this.
     
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    You write nonsense. Look at the Baltic countries - beggars.
    At the same time, how many decades did the EU contain them? Ukraine, even theoretically, cannot be rich. After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine got the largest economy in the post-Soviet space. So what? Everything is destroyed. Before Russia's special operation, Ukraine became the poorest country in Europe. Ukrainians are not able to genetically manage the state.
    By the way, in fact, the poor are not only Ukrainians, Balts, but also Poles.
    At first glance it seems that they are relatively successful, but all this is happening at the expense of the rest of the EU countries. And as soon as the EU refuses to finance the Poles, they will turn into beggars within one year.
    And the denial of funding will happen very soon. Because the EU needs to collect rubles to buy gas from the Russians. How much does petrol cost in France today?
     
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    Your photo is taken out of context. Shelling, for example, of Mariupol comes from both sides. Who caused these destructions? Can you show the whole context? Only show from independent sources. For example from Chinese or Indian.
     
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    Sounds like the Poles may need another Russian Special Operation to rescue them.
     
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    I read this on CNN two minutes ago
    "The Institute for the Study of War said Rudskoy's comments "could indicate that Russia has scaled back its aims and
    would now be satisfied with controlling the entirety of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, but that reading is likely inaccurate."

    Clearly a biased publication. Why bother with Indian or Chinese? Russian media is pretty good. But I do love the openness
    of Chinese media.
     
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    I don't understand why Ukrainians bother you? Nuclear war coming soon. We all don't have long. And it is still not known which is better - to be burned alive in a nuclear conflict or to be shot.
    And think about those who will survive - that's who horror is in full.
     
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    Deflection of my points.
    There is no war in Ukraine - it's all a Capitalist beat up.
     
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    Here's a few videos of the situation in Ukraine:

    This one is by Graham Phillips who had spent a lot of time in the Donbass reporting on the war in 2014. He's now in the northern Ukrainian city of Gorsk reporting on the Russian distribution of food and medicine.




    This one is by Patrick Lancaster at a refugee camp set up by the Donetsk People's Republic for the refugees from Mariupol.



    This is also by Patrick Lancaster in a Russian controlled hospital in a village outside Mariupol:

     
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    The wage of a doctor in Russia is $400 US a MONTH. Not an hour, a month.
    I read (but not sure) that a Russian conscript earns $40 US a month.
    And there's only one major road system in Russia - St Petersberg and Moscow.
    And Putin says half his hospitals have no running hot water - his own hot water
    comes out of gold plated taps. Not bad for someone on $125,000 US a year.
     
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    Don't worry about the Russians. They are fine. You better think of yourself. The US already has double-digit inflation today, but what will happen when trillions of unsecured dollars start pouring into the American economy. Because the Russians, followed by the Chinese, India, the Saudis .... even the Turks began to abandon the dollar and switch to payments in national currencies.
     
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    They could all switch to the Ruble.
     
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    Yes, switch to Rubble.
     
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    Yes .. first none are Fascist .. now all are Fascist .. no future .. and "Englands Dreaming" only need to get to line 2 of the song :)

     
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    If Russia's nukes aren't in better shape than their tanks they might not want to push that button.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ukraine is not Germany though, because it consists of parts of different countries, and they not only speak different languages, but have different traditions as well. I know the Rusyns asked Russia if they could join them since they were always persecuted by the nationalists. The Romanians would also like to rejoin Romania, and the Hungarians Hungary.

    The key here is Poland, which always dreamt of retaking Gallicia and their city of Lviv - after they had been brutally exterminated by the German allied nationalists in WWII.

    Vladimir Putin now has his chance to undo all the mess made by Lenin in Eastern Europe - that is if Washington doesn't interfere - which of course it will and which might be the reason Gonzalis Lira said that there might be a false flag attack in Poland.

    Poland said it wants to send peace keepers into Western Ukraine - which if they do enter, they will never leave. According to some Russian newspaper, Moscow would be willing to have Poland enter and take over Western Ukraine if they agree to give Russia a land corridor to Kaliningrad.

    This way Western Ukraine can either become federated with Poland, or if they persist with their nationalist tendencies, then they can join the Visegrad nations: Hungary, Poland, Czech Rep. and Slovakia.
     
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    Everything has its time.
    Poland was previously part of Russia. Just like Finland. And we must not forget that Peter 1 bought the Baltic states from the Swedes.
     

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