Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

Keep believing the bullshit.

 

Someone alert Alex Jones!

 

Posted in Sweden, apparently near the Russian Embassy:


“Dear Chekists [Russian intelligence officers]
...and other colleagues at the Russian Embassy:
Is it hard for you to go to work?
Are you ashamed at the end of your working day?
It will soon be too late to defect.
Contact us for a consultation on political asylum.
The coffee's on us!“

 

You actually think you have something there.

Unbelievable, seriously, that's dumber than...

 

Body removed for burial.

 

Russia has demanded an emergency Security Council meeting over this, but the UK l, which currently presides over tbe SC, has blocked it.

So far, at least, our Pentagon has not gone full retard, issuing a statement that it can't independently and singlehandedly confirm the allegations.

 

I guess you missed Jake Sullivan's press conference.

 

More video/reports from Bucha (dated today):

 

Yeah, I don't consider him to be must-see tv. What's his rank at the Pentagon again?

 

Big Governments are depressing.
People who have to live under oppressive regimes often choose not to have children.
National Socialism = National Suicide

 

As I posted earlier (from a Ukrainian source).

Today, April 2, in the liberated city of Bucha, Kyiv region, special units of the National Police of Ukraine began clearing the area of saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops. Specialists of the Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service inspect the places of war crimes of the Russian Federation and seize explosive devices and ammunition that have not detonated.

Law enforcement officers inspect every yard and shelter, communicate with people and provide assistance to local residents.

Citizens who had to endure the horrors of the occupation are helping the police as much as possible.

https://www.npu.gov.ua/news/stoprus...czpolicziji-rozpochali-zachistku-mista-bucha/

As is plainly stated, Ukrainian forces are in Bucha on April 2 "clearing the area of saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops". No mention of bodies in the streets nor do the pictures accompanying the article show any. Lo and behold, though, the next day the streets are littered with bodies.

Hmmm.... must be "saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops".

Sounds like they had help from the locals that had to endure the unspecified "horrors of the occupation".

Hey, we can always call it a Russian war crime!!!

Edit: In the alternative, it could all be bullshit. The bodies don't seem to show any signs of bloating or rigor mortis, even after 4 days since the Russians left. And in the one picture where I saw blood, it was bright red. Blood doesn't stay red outside the body. It oxidizes quickly and turns dark.

No wonder the UK won't allow a Security Council meeting over this.

 

I take it you've never lived in a city. It's mostly cost of living..

 

Oh no, it's vitally important to see what kind of people the U.S foreign policy makers hand pick to do their bidding. Ukraine is no different than Kosovo. The USA has history of arming and training criminals, terrorists and other human scum in order to achieve their geostrategic objectives. So far there is zero credible evidence to support the Ukrainian claims about the Russian war crimes let alone genocide. Zero credible evidence. Once again, the Russian troops withdrew on 30th of March. Not a single corpse was on a display in the immediate aftermath of them leaving.

 

In cities it is mostly the oppressive laws and law enforcement, racial and ethnic discrimination, forced sterilization and other aspects of authoritarian government.

 

Big government can take many forms, good and bad, but big governments are increasingly important in modern times to manage the complexities of modern society. There is no viable alternative, in fact, because a lack of big, robust government is essentially a power vacuum waiting to be filled, and without a good government in place and doing its job, quality of life tends to be much lower as well. With government comes security and prosperity.

Russia has an oppressive form of government, however, and a lot of poverty. Its government does not serve its people nearly as well as western governments do since it's headed by a selfish little dictator who uses and abuses people and has twisted, Soviet-informed notions of what constitutes national greatness.

 

That's pure propaganda.

 

'The Russians are gone': What this image says about Russia's strategy


A good analysis here of what the Russians are up to with troop movements and how they are likely to try and cut off Ukrainian forces in Donbas.

 

There are good cities.

 

Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.

That was stated ad hoc when they had to admit there were no WMDs. In any case, Saddam had no contact with Osama bin Laden.

Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.

 

I heard an interesting commentary regarding the Russian war crimes found daily in Ukraine. The scale of the executions indicate these are not random acts. These are orders coming from higher up. But the fact that the soldiers are willing to engage in these activities calls into question the entire Russian culture. The horrors we are seeing indicate the problem is endemic. We need to take a closer look at the Russian culture, he concluded.

If the Russian people hold putin accountable that would be different. But like trump supporters when faced with intolerable facts, so far they just double down on their support.

 

THIS MESSAGE APPROVED BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY




Guess, what Durandal - there IS a viable alternative, and it's the small, limited form of government that was formed by the Founders and Framers of the United States of America and is still supported by millions of Americans today. They wrote our Constitution in the knowledge that there is no greater threat to Man's freedom and prosperity than government.

 

Nope, the small government of rich white Christian elites is no longer viable. The world has changed quite radically since then and governments need to keep up.

 

Anonymous takes revenge on Putin’s brutal Ukraine invasion by leaking personal data of 120,000 Russian soldiers
Carmela Chirinos
Mon, April 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

Hacker collective Anonymous announced on Twitter that it successfully breached and leaked the personal data of 120,000 Russian soldiers.

https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1510494900713840641

"All soldiers participating in the invasion of Ukraine should be subjected to a war crime tribunal," Anonymous said in the message.

The leak included personal information like dates of birth, addresses, passport numbers, and unit affiliation.

... https://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-takes-revenge-putin-brutal-185953836.html​

120,000 is quite a haul. Good job, Anonymous.

 

Obtained courtesy of another forum I'm on;

It is the English translation of an article published on RIA Novosti (originally the Sovinformburo), the Russian state-owned domestic news agency. And I present it here an example of what the Russian State is telling its people to encourage support for the war at home. It also outlines Russian's goals and ambitions in Ukraine. Read it and literally weep.

(Translated from: https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html)
__________________________________________________ _____________________________

Back in April last year, we wrote about the inevitability of the denazification of Ukraine. Nazi, Bandera Ukraine, the enemy of Russia and the West's tool for the destruction of Russia, we do not need. Today, the issue of denazification has moved into a practical plane.

Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people - most likely the majority - has been mastered and drawn into the Nazi regime in its politics. That is, when the hypothesis "the people are good - the government is bad" does not work. Recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its measures, and the fact itself is its subject matter.

Ukraine is in just such a situation. The fact that the Ukrainian voter voted for the "peace of Poroshenko" and "peace of Zelensky" should not be misleading - the Ukrainians were quite satisfied with the shortest path to peace through the blitzkrieg, which the last two Ukrainian presidents transparently hinted at when they were elected. It was this method of "appeasement" of internal anti-fascists - through total terror - that was used in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol, other Russian cities. And this quite suited the Ukrainian man in the street. Denazification is a set of measures in relation to the nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be subjected to direct punishment as war criminals.

The Nazis who took up arms should be destroyed to the maximum on the battlefield. No significant distinction should be made between APU and the so-called national battalions, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally involved in extreme cruelty against the civilian population, equally guilty of the genocide of the Russian people, do not comply with the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis should be exemplarily and exponentially punished. There must be a total lustration. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism have been liquidated and banned.

However, in addition to the top, a significant part of the masses, which are passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged Nazi power. The just punishment of this part of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system, carried out with the utmost care and discretion in relation to civilians. Further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and strict censorship: not only in the political sphere, but also necessarily in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that a deep mass nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, secured by the promise of dividends from the victory of the Nazi regime over Russia, Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, as well as an eight-year war with the people of Donbass who rebelled against Ukrainian Nazism.

Denazification can only be carried out by the winner, which implies (1) his absolute control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, a denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach with regard to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be disputed by the guilty party subjected to denazification. Russia's recognition of the need to denazify Ukraine means the recognition of the impossibility of the Crimean scenario for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was impossible in 2014 and in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a conscious unambiguous mass refusal to maintain any unity and connection with Ukraine.

The terms of denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which must be born, grow up and reach maturity under the conditions of denazification. The nazification of Ukraine continued for more than 30 years, beginning at least in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism received legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for "independence" towards Nazism.

The peculiarity of modern nazified Ukraine is in amorphousness and ambivalence, which allow Nazism to be disguised as a desire for "independence" and a "European" (Western, pro-American) path of "development" (in reality - to degradation), to assert that in Ukraine "there is no Nazism, only private individual excesses". After all, there is no main Nazi party, no Fuhrer, no full-fledged racial laws (only their truncated version in the form of repressions against the Russian language). As a result, there is no opposition and resistance to the regime.

However, all of the above does not make Ukrainian Nazism a "light version" of German Nazism during the first half of the 20th century. On the contrary, since Ukrainian Nazism is free from such "genre" (essentially political technology) frameworks and restrictions, it freely unfolds as the fundamental basis of any Nazism - as European and, in its most developed form, American racism. Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, based on a formula like " NATO - no, the EU - yes. "The collective West is itself the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are only one of the tools for the Nazismization of Ukraine. Ukronazism carries not less, but a greater threat the world and Russia than the German Nazism of the Hitlerite version.

The name "Ukraine" apparently cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity in a territory liberated from the Nazi regime. The people's republics newly created in the space free from Nazism should and will grow from the practice of economic self-government and social security, restoration and modernization of the life support systems of the population.

In fact, their political aspirations cannot be neutral - expiation of guilt before Russia for treating it as an enemy can be realized only by relying on Russia in the processes of restoration, revival and development. No "Marshall Plans" should be allowed for these territories. There can be no "neutrality" in the ideological and practical sense, compatible with denazification. The cadres and organizations that are the instrument of denazification in the newly denazified republics cannot but rely on Russia's direct military and organizational support.

Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Little Russia and New Russia, begun by the Soviet authorities. Being an instrument of the communist superpower, after its fall, artificial ethnocentrism did not remain ownerless. In this official capacity, he passed under the authority of another superpower (the power standing over the states) — the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and deprived of political functionality.

Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic countries, Ukraine, as history has shown, is impossible as a nation state, and attempts to "build" one naturally lead to Nazism. Ukrainism is an artificial anti-Russian construction that does not have its own civilizational content, a subordinate element of an alien and alien civilization. Debanderization by itself will not be enough for denazification - the Bandera element is only a performer and a screen, a disguise for the European project of Nazi Ukraine, therefore the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.

The Bandera elite must be eliminated, its re-education is impossible. The social "bog", (i.e. the people of Ukraine) which actively and passively supported it by action and inaction, must survive the hardships of the war and assimilate the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for its guilt. Those who did not support the Nazi regime, suffered from it and the war unleashed by him in the Donbass, must be consolidated and organized, must become the pillar of the new government, its vertical and horizontal. Historical experience shows that the tragedies and dramas of wartime benefit peoples who have been tempted and carried away by the role of an enemy of Russia.

Denazification as the goal of a special military operation within the framework of this operation itself is understood as a military victory over the Kiev regime, the liberation of territories from armed supporters of the Nazis, the elimination of implacable Nazis, the capture of war criminals, and the creation of systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime.

The latter, in turn, should begin with the organization of local self-government, police and defense bodies, cleansed of Nazi elements, launching on their basis the founding processes of founding a new republican statehood, integrating this statehood into close cooperation with the Russian department for the denazification of Ukraine (newly created or converted, say, from Rossotrudnichestvo), with the adoption under Russian control of the republican regulatory framework (legislation) on denazification, the definition of the boundaries and framework for the direct application of Russian law and Russian jurisdiction in the liberated territory in the field of denazification, the creation of a tribunal for crimes against humanity in the former Ukraine. In this regard, Russia should act as the guardian of the Nuremberg Trials.

All of the above means that in order to achieve the goals of denazification, the support of the population is necessary, its transition to the side of Russia after liberation from terror, violence and ideological pressure of the Kiev regime, after the withdrawal from informational isolation. Of course, it will take some time for people to recover from the shock of hostilities, to be convinced of Russia's long-term intentions - that "they will not be abandoned." It is impossible to foresee in advance exactly in which territories such a mass of the population will constitute a critically needed majority. The "Catholic province" (Western Ukraine as part of five regions) is unlikely to become part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of alienation, however, will be found empirically. Behind it will remain hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarized Ukraine with formally banned Nazism. The haters of Russia will go there. The guarantee of the preservation of this residual Ukraine in a neutral state should be the threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation in case of non-compliance with the listed requirements. Perhaps this will require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the exclusion line to the Russian border there will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature.

The operation to denazify Ukraine, which began with a military phase, will follow the same logic of stages in peacetime as a military operation. At each of them, it will be necessary to achieve irreversible changes, which will become the results of the corresponding stage. In this case, the necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows:

• liquidation of armed Nazi formations (which means any armed formations of Ukraine, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as the military, informational, educational infrastructure that ensures their activity;
• the formation of public self-government bodies and militia (defense and law enforcement) of the liberated territories, protecting the population from the terror of underground Nazi groups;
• installation of the Russian information space;
• the withdrawal of educational materials and the prohibition of educational programs at all levels containing Nazi ideological guidelines;
• mass investigative actions to establish personal responsibility for war crimes, crimes against humanity, the spread of Nazi ideology and support for the Nazi regime;
• lustration, publication of the names of accomplices of the Nazi regime, involving them in forced labor to restore the destroyed infrastructure as punishment for Nazi activities (from among those who will not be subject to the death penalty or imprisonment);
• the adoption at the local level, under the supervision of Russia, of primary normative acts of denazification "from below", a ban on all types and forms of the revival of Nazi ideology;
• the establishment of memorials, commemorative signs, monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, perpetuating the memory of the heroes of the struggle against it;
• the inclusion of a complex of anti-fascist and denazification norms in the constitutions of the new people's republics;
• creation of permanent denazification bodies for a period of 25 years.

Russia will have no allies in the denazification of Ukraine. Since this is a purely Russian business. And also because not just the Bandera version of Nazi Ukraine will be eradicated, but also, and above all, Western totalitarianism, the imposed programs of civilizational degradation and disintegration, the mechanisms of subjugation to the superpower of the West and the United States.

 

I agree with that in principle. The libertarian model does not work - even the enlightened libertarian government first created by the American founders failed. The COTUS established a far more powerful central government, and I cannot imagine the USA functioning effectively without a powerful central government.

Nevertheless, IMO, large reductions in its size, power and cost would make it far more stable and sustainable.
American nationalism is really an oxymoron. The Founders pledged loyalty to the law -- the COTUS not the government or the land mass. Like many nation-states after the American Revolution the USSR had a constitution, but it was scrapped almost immediately in favor of the perceived expediency of a strong central government led by a tyrant -- a new Tsar. IOW, a dead end for Russia.

Like Robespierre, Lenin had a clue before he gained power.

"How self-government is to be organized and how we can manage without a bureaucracy has been shown to us by America and the first French Republic, and is being shown even today by Canada, Australia and the other English colonies." THE STATE AND REVOLUTION, VI Lenin, Penguin, 1992, Lenin, 66.

Power clearly corrupts - real fast.