Russia Angrily Demands U.S. Stop Sending Weapons to Ukraine

Oh....there will probably be a few survivors............but the won't get along either. We are seeing the human condition at its worst..........and any hope for constructive evolution is doubtful. We should be knowledgeable to do much better than be controlled by emotions of greed/ lust for power , etc. Have we not learned anything from the previous ugly wars??

What is astounding is that folks can discuss the possibility of a nuke war..........as if they are discussing the breakfast menu......There is no regard to the humans and the planet that would be destroyed.....and the unimaginable suffering.......

 

People suffer in any war. Even a strictly conventional one.

 

all the more reason to avoid wars . There has to be a better way of resolving these complex issues. even if it would be more difficult..........
War is expedient and a simple minded approach........as we have seen repeatedly

 

This is just anti- American paranoia, on your part. Just because a country trades in a currency-- what do you mean by dealing in rubles or yuan?-- does not make that currency a reserve bank standard. If Israel is using rubles as a reserve currency, I predict that will not work out well for them.

 

That's just it .. people assume wars are still about power and money - which is about a hundred years out of date. In a world of 8+ billion, EVERYTHING is about food (and for Northerners, also heat).

If you think killing for food is unlikely, you've never met a hungry mob.

 

I have no idea what you mean when you say 'paranoia'. I'm not American, I'm not pro-Ru$$ia, I'm not anything but an observer of the events. Not sure what you think it is that I'm 'paranoid' about. I don't have a dog in the fight .. nationally or personally.

And yes, Israel is now trading in roubles and yuan. They're not stupid, despite your suggestion that they are.

 

Good luck feeding the billions, if you refuse to engage in dirt wars. Globalism brought about this helplessness - which has catastrophic consequences once too many mouths need feeding. If you don't fight for the dirt you actually need, you're sunk under globalism.

It was never going to end peacefully, to have so many nations so dependent upon foreign agency. A house of cards, waiting for a light breeze.

 

This is not a very clarifying response, from you. I never said you were anti- nationalist, so your not being American is irrelevant. I did get the impression that you were depicting this as something that boded poorly for the U.S. Whether or not you cared about the repercussions, you are certainly depicting it as something you expect that people should be worried about; hence, I used the terms "anti- American," and "paranoia." Does it help your understanding, if we change it to hyperbolic alarmism?

As to the other part of my question, over your use of the descriptive term for Israeli activity, as "dealing," with rubles, you did not make your meaning any less ambiguous. I asked if they were using it as a reserve currency. Is your answer meant to be taken as a, "yes?" If so, this is foolish, IMO. Your saying that, "they're not stupid," is nothing but your own opinion, so it does not defeat my argument. For the record, however, I did not say that they were "stupid," only that what they were doing-- if it is, indeed, using the ruble to back up their own currency-- seems a rather reckless gamble, to me. Even smart people, sometimes do very stupid things.

 

At this point there still is a lot of food waste!
Of the estimated 125 to 160 billion pounds of food that goes to waste every year, much of it is perfectly edible and nutritious.

Very interesting read here:
https://foodprint.org/issues/the-problem-of-food-waste/
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For instance, I have several compost bins that get filled with composable waste from the kitchen and the garden/yard. My only fertilizer is the finished compost.
Our town has a program implemented where they provide the "green" bins with lids for compost material. It gets picked up once a week and set up to rot. Every spring they offer their citizens to come and help themselves to some back compost soil.

 

Since Crank didn't bother to link to a source, and since I live in Israel and know how wrong he is, I just dismissed his posts as pure unadulterated garbage. I hope you replied to that...well, that, only because you were bored.

Neither the ruble, nor the yuan are becoming meaningful currencies in Israel anytime soon. Israel has openly participated in the US-led summit for sending more arms to Ukraine. Any attempt by our government to side with Russia - and even this shaky coalition wouldn't do something that stupid - would lead to massive public outcry, and most likely to the demise of the current government. Not to mention a brutal breakup with our new Arab friends and allies. Anyone who believes Israel would risk that much for a tango with Putin is living in a very dark fantasy land.

Some people are just obsessed with Israel/Jews.Seeing at every corner, under every bed, and behind every bush, a sinister conspiracy, is like a drug addiction for them.

I'd be more worried about recent events in the separatist region of Moldova:

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-705070

Can't wait to see how will a certain poster manage to twist the above in order to blame you-know-who.

 

That's right D .. Your beloved Biden-Obama team did plenty of War Crimes, Crimes againt Humanity, claiming it was in our interest .. but it was a lie .. Ol Biden pulled one over on you mate.. should not be so gullible .. believing everything Biden says.

 

Good grief mate .. You think it was Trump who convinced Putin to attack Ukraine ? that is some serious TDS you got going on -- causing these wild hypothesis.

 

You would think having tiger by tail would cause at least some stress .

 

I disagree. This war is an attack on NATO by a country whose aggressive leadership is trying to undo more than three decades of history, rebuilding walls made of submissive puppet governments in adjacent lands in order to protect themselves from the outside.

This is a clear, unprovoked attack on NATO, as much as an attack on the sovereignty of Ukraine. It's an attack on the right of NATO to negotiate with states willing to become members, as much as an attack on the right of every state to negotiate with NATO. It's not a war for land, or for resources. It's a war driven by fear and hegemonic fantasies.

 

This doesn't deserve it's own thread, but there was this interesting exchange between Vladimir Paul (R-KY) and SOS Tony Blinken yesterday..... I watched the 39 second clip, and Blinken didn't handle this the best way (IMHO)

Here's what I like to think I would have done in his stead (as it was my first reaction listening to Vlad)

Paul - “The countries that have been attacked, Georgia and Ukraine, were part of the Soviet Union ... since the 1920s.”

Blinken (for real) - “That does not give Russia the right to attack them.”

OR

Me (As Blinken) - "That is correct, Senator...... And your point?"

https://twitter.com/therecount/stat...us-rand-pauls-comments-russias-211011961.html

If a man wants to voluntarily step into a pile of crap, it's not always my job to prevent that...

 

Then why is Putin doing it now? Why didn't he do it during Trump's regime or even before? He obviously expected Trump's backing in a non-violent takeover but held off to give Trump time to consolidate his power. When Trump lost in 2020 he decided it was now or never. When the invasion failed Trump saw his chance to use it in 2024 as described above and this is why he and his rightist toadies have been backing Putin ever since

 

I would think so. It has always stressed me when I tried it.

 

I think your 2nd sentence is spot on, but I still don't think you should categorize this as an "attack" on NATO, since nobody in NATO was attacked.

I would say it was an attack on a neighboring country which also served as a warning to NATO.

But that brings up the very interesting prospect of how Putin will respond when another neighbor (Finland) actually submits their NATO application in mid May (along with Sweden), as reported...

 

I’ve 1000% confidence in my toast prediction.

 

I disagree, your reply would have enabled Paul to bring up those State's considerable histories as provinces of Tsarist Russia. Blinken's statement is simple international law as it stands today

 

Agreed. Strange that so many of the world's more dictatorial leaders seem to adopt the position so readily.

 

I really hope the irony of claiming a need for pragmatism in posts that are so rambling, angry and personally insulting isn’t lost on you.

If I were to actually dissect all this just to find whatever bits of coherency are hiding in there I’d be here all day. I didn’t even quote all of it, nor have I read whatever 3rd post you put up.

just rest assured, when you have clearly lost all semblance of logical deduction and have surrendered to pure emotion-based reasoning, nobody needs to read your version of the last testament. You’ve simply lost.

if you really want to continue this, do yourself and me a favor, do what you promised to do in simplifying your words: no, I don’t mean just all caps them with underlines and bolds thrown in. go back and make an actual argument.

Feel free to use some of my posts for reference. You know where I used numbers to highlight my main points and kept the proceeding points short and concise? This is all basic English class stuff, and I’m happy to help so please reach out to me if you’d like any advice.

Until then, have a wonderful day.

 

Which is exactly what Blinken should have had Paul do.... expound on meaningless past ties which everybody will know are current Russian-talking points..

Was a perfect opportunity to let a man expose his backassward views on national TV.

Of course, Paul could have completely passed on expanding, which would have shown it was a bait point in the first place.

Put the ball back in Paul's court ... mistake not to do so, except Blinken obviously wasn't there to score political points...

 

What do you think “half assing sanctions” means? It means: never maximize them.

Do you know we are considering more sanctions on NKorea? We’ve been sanctioning them for decades, but don’t worry, there are always more sanctions we haven’t done yet.

which is the point. We never fully utilize our sanctioning capacity because we are so scared of doing any direct action that we make sure never to fully sanction or else all we’d be left with is direct action in response to any escalation.

So when you ask me what id like for us to do: I’d like us to actually do everything we can do. We might sanction Putins girlfriend who may be assisting him in hiding money in Swiss banks? Why has this not been done months ago? We are only now getting around to supplying heavy weapons to Ukraine? Why has this not been done months ago? We earlier nixed Polands plan to give them fighter jets for “fear of antagonizing Putin”, can we please stop letting even indirect actions be dictated by this BS about fear of Putin?

The list goes on, and that’s just the current stuff, let alone what we could’ve and should’ve done months ago during the buildup to all this, let alone what could’ve and should’ve been done years ago, let alone other countries we could and should be doing more about but yet again, we simply aren’t.

It should be very clear that Putin manipulates western action and inaction and western leaders let him manipulate them. If you aren’t angry about that then that really sucks because like I’ve pointed out, the world is only going to get more dangerous, and people are already being slaughtered in droves

 

ever heard of a F-ing link bro? Copy and paste? Or did you forget basic stuff like that in your rush to rhetorically stroke yourself?